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TheGreenBastard
20th March 2018, 09:00
Cambridge Analytica: Warrant sought to inspect company - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43465700)

FB turning up at CA pre-warrant. Anyone here still stupid enough to have a FB account?

Dark Black
20th March 2018, 09:33
Cambridge Analytica: Warrant sought to inspect company - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43465700)

FB turning up at CA pre-warrant. Anyone here still stupid enough to have a FB account?

Fair point (I'm not on FB anyway) but how far do you want to go to protect your privacy..?

For example: Anyone here still stupid enough to own a modern smart phone?

PhiltheGreek
20th March 2018, 09:46
Yeah, but I get mine from the security services :smokin

In any case, I only really use it for playing crossy road whilst i'm on the bog wrestling with a troublesome Eartha.

WTFH
20th March 2018, 09:59
Following on from that:

... but how far do you want to go to protect your privacy..?

For example: Anyone here still stupid enough to own a Ltd Company?

TheGreenBastard
20th March 2018, 10:27
Following on from that:

... but how far do you want to go to protect your privacy..?

For example: Anyone here still stupid enough to own a Ltd Company?

Every little helps, absolutism (all or nothing) is a stupid argument.

Why would a bona fide company be concerned about their details on Companies House? :wink

NotAllThere
20th March 2018, 10:50
Anyone here still stupid enough...The answer to that question is always "yes".

Jog On
20th March 2018, 11:28
So is this what actually 'stole' the election for Trump? Or are they going to link this to Putin in the next few days?

I'm getting confused about how Hillary actually lost - was it Russian hackers? Russian trolls? Or this? Or white women being forced to vote trump by their abusive husbands/sons(!)/brothers?

TheGreenBastard
20th March 2018, 11:35
So is this what actually 'stole' the election for Trump? Or are they going to link this to Putin in the next few days?

I'm getting confused about how Hillary actually lost - was it Russian hackers? Russian trolls? Or this? Or white women being forced to vote trump by their abusive husbands/sons(!)/brothers?

Obama, Trump, Eastern European meddling, so on and so forth.

FB turned up prior to the warrant, very suspect, wonder what info they're shredding.

darmstadt
20th March 2018, 11:36
It doesn't matter if you have a social media account, what matters if you are stupid enough to believe the targeted ads and posts...

TheGreenBastard
20th March 2018, 11:41
It doesn't matter if you have a social media account, what matters if you are stupid enough to believe the targeted ads and posts...

Wrong. It seems your assertion is contradictory, how do you think they "target" people? Machine learning / profiling on account data perhaps? The power is user data, you are the product.

SueEllen
20th March 2018, 12:36
Wrong. It seems your assertion is contradictory, how do you think they "target" people? Machine learning / profiling on account data perhaps? The power is user data, you are the product.You can have a social media account and not use it.

cojak
20th March 2018, 12:42
Wrong. It seems your assertion is contradictory, how do you think they "target" people? Machine learning / profiling on account data perhaps? The power is user data, you are the product.

No, your data are the products. The consumer is the herd animal that is milked for the product.

We are the gift that keeps on giving...

Jog On
20th March 2018, 12:51
Does anyone do facebook ads or use any of the analytic/insight stuff? It's an absolute goldmine for an advertiser.

Bacchus
20th March 2018, 12:55
I got an email from my mother last year asking me whether I would mind cleaning her kitchen floor next time I visited as she had spilled a pot of coffee and can't see well enough to clean it up. Within a couple of days my Facebook page was littered with adverts for domestic cleaning services (which haven't reappeared)

Last summer I arranged, via text, to meet some friends in a London pub that I hadn't previously visited - which was suddenly advertised on Facebook - again hasn't been re-advertised.

Obviously cookies and things are fair game - try researching pensions on your PC and see how Investment companies suddenly springs to life - but email and text should be private. I certainly haven't installed any Facebook apps on the phone (and I use a crackberry so hardly fits the description of a modern smart-phone :ohwell) but they're getting the info from somewhere.

Jog On
20th March 2018, 12:57
I got an email from my mother last year asking me whether I would mind cleaning her kitchen floor next time I visited as she had spilled a pot of coffee and can't see well enough to clean it up. Within a couple of days my Facebook page was littered with adverts for domestic cleaning services (which haven't reappeared)

Last summer I arranged, via text, to meet some friends in a London pub that I hadn't previously visited - which was suddenly advertised on Facebook - again hasn't been re-advertised.

Obviously cookies and things are fair game - try researching pensions on your PC and see how Investment companies suddenly springs to life - but email and text should be private. I certainly haven't installed any Facebook apps on the phone (and I use a crackberry so hardly fits the description of a modern smart-phone :ohwell) but they're getting the info from somewhere.

Did you use a web based email account? The text stuff sounds scary...

original PM
20th March 2018, 13:04
Did you use a web based email account? The text stuff sounds scary...

For a really scary thing - leave your mobile on and unlocked and start talking about a subject

then go to google something about said subject on your phone and see what google suggests as you type.

Then put your phone in a bucket of water, don your tinfoil helmet and go live off the grid!

TheGreenBastard
20th March 2018, 13:10
You can have a social media account and not use it.

OK, what's your point? Is all your unused social data falsified, Sue?


No, your data are the products. The consumer is the herd animal that is milked for the product.

We are the gift that keeps on giving...

Nah, you and your data are the product as I said; as soon as someone advertises something to sell to you via your FB data you become the product (advertising is the primary reason behind profiling).

Eirikur
20th March 2018, 13:22
What is scarier you buy something completely off line, only used my credit card to pay and minutes later see adverts for the products you just bought on FB (happened to me a few times now)
So my credit card company must provide details to advertising agencies about my purchases, can't draw any other conclusions, once can be coincidence, but three or four times?

TheGreenBastard
20th March 2018, 13:30
What is scarier you buy something completely off line, only used my credit card to pay and minutes later see adverts for the products you just bought on FB (happened to me a few times now)
So my credit card company must provide details to advertising agencies about my purchases, can't draw any other conclusions, once can be coincidence, but three or four times?

You search for black mamba dildos on Google once and get a lifetime of Amazon ads selling the same thing!

Eirikur
20th March 2018, 13:37
You search for black mamba dildos on Google once and get a lifetime of Amazon ads selling the same thing!

that's why I've got an ad-blocker, 6 ads blocked on this page BTW

Bacchus
20th March 2018, 13:47
that's why I've got an ad-blocker, 6 ads blocked on this page BTW

Damn - I've got only five blocked.

There must be a dildo advert that is so subtle neither I nor the ad-blocker can't see it...

Bacchus
20th March 2018, 13:52
Did you use a web based email account? The text stuff sounds scary...

Pop email.

Plenty of examples in this BBC article - Is your phone listening in? Your stories - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41802282) - but Facebook says it isn't them, so that's ok then...

WTFH
20th March 2018, 13:55
Damn - I've got only five blocked.

5 for me as well on Safari

barrydidit
20th March 2018, 14:03
Damn - I've got only five blocked.

There must be a dildo advert that is so subtle neither I nor the ad-blocker can't see it...

It's immediately below the text 'Erika is NOT a disguised employee'. HTH

darmstadt
20th March 2018, 16:03
It doesn't matter if you have a social media account, what matters if you are stupid enough to believe the targeted ads and posts...


OK, what's your point? Is all your unused social data falsified, Sue?



Nah, you and your data are the product as I said; as soon as someone advertises something to sell to you via your FB data you become the product (advertising is the primary reason behind profiling).

Still stand by my original quote. It's a bit like the Mary Whitehouse syndrome, you can turn your TV off in the same way you can ignore the ads...

TheGreenBastard
20th March 2018, 16:12
Still stand by my original quote. It's a bit like the Mary Whitehouse syndrome, you can turn your TV off in the same way you can ignore the ads...

So you're 100% resilient to all marketing, got it.

BR14
20th March 2018, 20:11
5 for me as well on Safari

4 on chrome/ linux

Dark Black
21st March 2018, 13:12
4 on chrome/ linux

5 yesterday, 4 today - firefox (+ABP) /linux

TheGreenBastard
21st March 2018, 13:50
7 on Linux / Chrome / uBlock Origin