Agile... is the bubble bursting?

[original PM]

Agile is ageist - discuss

[chef]

Agile is ageist - discuss

Define “old”

If by old you mean those that are unwilling to try or understand a different way of thinking because “what’s wrong with the old way” then yes they should be replaced by those who are willing to adapt or at least try something new. I’m not saying that the new thing should be accepted de facto but it should at least be given a chance.

[tazdevil]

Martin Fowler, one of the software gurus who wrote and signed the original agile manifesto. I asked him what he makes of Agile today. “I’d say about 90 percent of it is bulltulip,” he told me. The problem is that nobody knows which 90 percent.

All these new fangled ideologies are bulltulip designed to provide useless management with an excuse to exist. Simply being creative, diligent and having perseverance is the only approach that actually works. You don't create great code and systems by cuddling your work mate

[Yorkie62]

... You don't create great code and systems by cuddling your work mate

Depends what she's like.

[frustin]

the IT circle of life.

Agile does allow you to decouple your business processes from the monolith. However businesses need to be careful that they're not mistaking agile for, get it done quick but leave a tonne of tech-debt or unmanageable IT because they dont know what it does. Businesses also need to be mindful that developers dont grow on trees and you also need someone to lead them. Also moving them on the path of the business not on the path of what they think the business should be doing.

[vwdan]

Indeed, Agile might provide a clever way to sidestep age discrimination laws. Companies can’t fire you because of your age, but there’s no law that says companies can’t adopt some fuzzy, poorly defined new attribute that every employee must have — and then fire you for lacking that attribute. There’s also no law that says a company can’t force employees to adopt insane, pointless new methodologies and then gaslight them until they quit.

God Bless America.

[Troll]

Agile is ageist - discuss

Have to agree with the statement "

I’d say about 90 percent of it is bulltulip,” he told me. The problem is that nobody knows which 90 percent"

but then I'm an old git

[Lockhouse]

I used to punt myself out as an Agile coach but found it too stressful.

In my experience almost everyone is doing Scrumbut.

As in "We've implemented Scrum, but...."

[Lance]

It seems 'agile' now has three different meanings in IT/business.

1) a software development project management strategy
2) a flexible method of working (a new one to me this, but after I'd done a load of background research for an interview it seems the agile they had on the job spec is not #1).
3) the one this thread is about

[chopper]

I had a client with a "Lean & Agile" mantra for IT, but it really just meant "Quick & Crufty".

I prefer HAYSIMTATMAJLMGOWI methodology: "How about you stop inviting me to all these meetings and just let me get on with it"