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Wilmslow
9th November 2018, 08:38
Okay, the post about depression got me thinking. I am needing to be in the office 5 days meaning early morning train and 4 nights in a hutch all week. It is a nice hutch in a military hotel with well behaved people in the bedrooms so a perfect sleep without any loutish hotel people which is very unusual for a city, but it is a lonely existence. My ‘life’ is office, which insists being on site every day while the permies who are local work from home loads. I take a regular gym class most evenings so the instructors know me, dine in the club restaurant every evening, then watch tv until time to sleep. It started out kind of nice chilling, but, the things I would like to do at home are not possible at present. The restaurant, reception and gym staff know me well, I am Alan Partridge.

There is an enforced two week Christmas break which I am for once very grateful to have.

I have had a look into Meet-Up but cannot see anything of interest. I am in central London which is a party place for youngsters. Maybe I should just get into the hotels bar and chat with people, but it would be good to get out and about – I end up just reverting to gym, meal, tv and sleep.

Has anyone else felt this way? The solution I know is to man up or change contracts, but I am committed to this one and want to see it through. It pays well, but maybe I need to factor in a Friday off once every 3-4 weeks. The kicker for me is the 4 nights way which cannot be changed which is frustrating.

Zigenare
9th November 2018, 08:42
Okay, the post about depression got me thinking. I am needing to be in the office 5 days meaning early morning train and 4 nights in a hutch all week. It is a nice hutch in a military hotel with well behaved people in the bedrooms so a perfect sleep without any loutish hotel people which is very unusual for a city, but it is a lonely existence. My ‘life’ is office, which insists being on site every day while the permies who are local work from home loads. I take a regular gym class most evenings so the instructors know me, dine in the club restaurant every evening, then watch tv until time to sleep. It started out kind of nice chilling, but, the things I would like to do at home are not possible at present. The restaurant, reception and gym staff know me well, I am Alan Partridge.

There is an enforced two week Christmas break which I am for once very grateful to have.

I have had a look into Meet-Up but cannot see anything of interest. I am in central London which is a party place for youngsters. Maybe I should just get into the hotels bar and chat with people, but it would be good to get out and about – I end up just reverting to gym, meal, tv and sleep.

Has anyone else felt this way? The solution I know is to man up or change contracts, but I am committed to this one and want to see it through. It pays well, but maybe I need to factor in a Friday off once every 3-4 weeks. The kicker for me is the 4 nights way which cannot be changed which is frustrating.

Away from what?
It's not as if you're married or have a significant other. You row with your neighbours and have no friends. You're the male equivalent of the "Mad cat woman". When you die, they'll find you with one hand on your keyboard, the other clutching your wank sock.

Loneliness is your future.

Wilmslow
9th November 2018, 08:43
Away from what?
It's not as if you're married or have a significant other. You row with your neighbours and have no friends. You're the male equivalent of the "Mad cat woman". When you die, they'll find you with one hand on your keyboard, the other clutching your wank sock.

Loneliness is your future.

Thanks for the reality check... I think!

Gibbon
9th November 2018, 08:44
Okay, the post about depression got me thinking. I am needing to be in the office 5 days meaning early morning train and 4 nights in a hutch all week. It is a nice hutch in a military hotel with well behaved people in the bedrooms so a perfect sleep without any loutish hotel people which is very unusual for a city, but it is a lonely existence. My ‘life’ is office, which insists being on site every day while the permies who are local work from home loads. I take a regular gym class most evenings so the instructors know me, dine in the club restaurant every evening, then watch tv until time to sleep. It started out kind of nice chilling, but, the things I would like to do at home are not possible at present. The restaurant, reception and gym staff know me well, I am Alan Partridge.

There is an enforced two week Christmas break which I am for once very grateful to have.

I have had a look into Meet-Up but cannot see anything of interest. I am in central London which is a party place for youngsters. Maybe I should just get into the hotels bar and chat with people, but it would be good to get out and about – I end up just reverting to gym, meal, tv and sleep.

Has anyone else felt this way? The solution I know is to man up or change contracts, but I am committed to this one and want to see it through. It pays well, but maybe I need to factor in a Friday off once every 3-4 weeks. The kicker for me is the 4 nights way which cannot be changed which is frustrating.

Pornhub.

xoggoth
9th November 2018, 09:12
I rather liked being in new places. Don't consider myself enormously sociable but usually found a few people in local pub I would get to know and chat with over a vodka or two. Being a cheap skate, I usually rented rooms in a shared house rather than stay at hotels, so was with other people anyway. Maybe you should have a go at that if contract's long enough. Don't you ever go for a drink with blokes at work?

Gibbon
9th November 2018, 09:16
I rather liked being in new places. Don't consider myself enormously sociable but usually found a few people in local pub I would get to know and chat with over a vodka or two. Being a cheap skate, I usually rented rooms in a shared house rather than stay at hotels, so was with other people anyway. Maybe you should have a go at that if contract's long enough.

Yes but don't leave crumbs in the grill!

ladymuck
9th November 2018, 09:24
As you're in central London, you definitely should come along to the CUK Xmas Do on 14 December
https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/social-events/130036-cuk-london-christmas-party-14-december.html

London isn't just a party place for youngsters. There's plenty to do if you want to do it.

That said, being away from home is hard. You don't have your usual stuff around you, your routine is messed up, etc.

One thing I would recommend is getting out of the hotel and eating 'out' - there's so many good and reasonably priced places to eat that you can't go wrong. Living off hotel food is going to drive you potty in the end.

Hobosapien
9th November 2018, 09:29
Any fellow contractors in same predicament?

Spent many a night and much money socialising with those also doing the Monday to Friday work away from home thing.

One client had the permie manager take us all for regular curry nights at his favourite restaurants. He was ex-military so probably knew things about keeping the troops motivated when cooped up in a foreign place.

Alternatively, watch Lost In Translation (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0335266/) and look out for Scarlett Johansson types in the hotel bar. :smokin

BoredBloke
9th November 2018, 10:03
I think it does cause loneliness. I've lived in our house for 21 years and first started taking contracts away from home about 19 years ago. Since then I've managed 4 years where my contract was commutable from home - and by commutable I'd class a 100 mile round trip as a commute. There are some jobs that crop up locally, but they are scarce and never seem to crop up when you need them - and the rates can be woeful

Generally my mode of operation is a hotel for the time it takes me to rent a flat - that way I can at least have some of my home comforts around me and it's not as miserable as being stuck in a single room with a TV. It also means I can cook for myself.

Yorkie62
9th November 2018, 10:19
Throw in a random, or not so random, OU course to fill the hours and keep the old grey matter ticking over is one way to while away the hours.

Or you could just join an adult dating site. :smokin

Gibbon
9th November 2018, 10:39
I only do 4 days if away from home. Last gig away was a breeze, arrived Mon noon, finished Thurs noon. That was in some ways better than 5 days at a local site. Worked until 8 every night and in at 7. Finished work, pint and a paper, chat to barmaid and hey presto bedtime.

I also started OU 9 years whilst away, but be careful it becomes more additive than tinder, I'm now half way through a Masters. Birbeck do evening classes though, pick a language course, always full of females.

xoggoth
9th November 2018, 10:41
I'm now half way through a Masters

What's that in Gibbon? Ancient Greek history?

jds 1981
9th November 2018, 10:50
Find a Shed – UK Mens Sheds Association (https://menssheds.org.uk/find-a-shed/)

Gibbon
9th November 2018, 10:53
What's that in Gibbon? Ancient Greek history?

Classical studies, Greek, Latin etc.

PerfectStorm
9th November 2018, 11:10
The solution is to live and work in London.

A fighting chance at being available for most of the gigs in the country, and you get to go home each night.

Plus as a contractor you've got a sniff of being able to do so.

YMMV

jds 1981
9th November 2018, 11:15
The solution is to live and work in London.

A fighting chance at being available for most of the gigs in the country, and you get to go home each night.

Plus as a contractor you've got a sniff of being able to do so.

YMMV

And even if your gig of outside of London you have the advantage of traveling against the flow..

GJABS
9th November 2018, 14:08
Or you could just join an adult dating site. :smokin

The local whorehouse is there for lonely contractors :happy

GJABS
9th November 2018, 14:13
Generally my mode of operation is a hotel for the time it takes me to rent a flat

I'm thinking of doing that. But I think I'm right in saying that most flats for rent are for minimum periods longer than the typical 3-month contract, so you are running a risk that you won't get extended (actually you are running a risk of early termination in all cases)

jmo21
9th November 2018, 14:27
I think it does cause loneliness. I've lived in our house for 21 years and first started taking contracts away from home about 19 years ago. Since then I've managed 4 years where my contract was commutable from home - and by commutable I'd class a 100 mile round trip as a commute. There are some jobs that crop up locally, but they are scarce and never seem to crop up when you need them - and the rates can be woeful

Generally my mode of operation is a hotel for the time it takes me to rent a flat - that way I can at least have some of my home comforts around me and it's not as miserable as being stuck in a single room with a TV. It also means I can cook for myself.

10 years contracting, 10 years no more than about 1hr 20min commute (car/train/walk)

I'm not actually sure I could do the working away from home thing.

That being said, one of the reasons I started contracting was because the consultancy I worked for wanted to send me away from home for a job. So I quit and started contracting.

BoredBloke
9th November 2018, 16:39
I'm thinking of doing that. But I think I'm right in saying that most flats for rent are for minimum periods longer than the typical 3-month contract, so you are running a risk that you won't get extended (actually you are running a risk of early termination in all cases)

That's the risk you take - I almost had my fingers burnt the last time I rented in London. 2 months into the lease for a flat in Victoria Docks the end client ditched the whole project and I was left with a flat with 4 months left to run on the lease. In the end I paid the rent until a new person could be found to take it over and all her advertising costs (which were not much)

Andy2
9th November 2018, 20:11
team with with other contractors at client site and rent a flat together. In the evening you can watch tv together , go for drinks or clubbing , play sports or even cook together in the evening. I did that in one of the contract and it was loads of fun.

BR14
9th November 2018, 20:19
team with with other contractors at client site and rent a flat together. In the evening you can watch tv together , go for drinks or clubbing , play sports or even cook together in the evening. I did that in one of the contract and it was loads of fun.

:eek:eek:eek:eek

what a terrible thought :smokin

Mordac
9th November 2018, 21:32
:eek:eek:eek:eek

what a terrible thought :smokin

He did say "cook together". :wink

NotAllThere
9th November 2018, 21:53
Okay, the post about depression got me thinking...
Has anyone else felt this way?I usually found the first week of the weekly commute a bit of a downer, but things soon picked up once I got into the routine. Twice I found lodgings with a family, which was pretty nice - decent bit of income for them, and somewhere warm and friendly with good home cooking of an evening - but mostly I'd stay in small hotels with a bar and a comfortable lounge. If it works out, you'll be on friendly terms with the locals and the staff. At one place, I'd enjoy a whisky with the hotel chef after the service was finished.

However, as many here have publicly stated many times - I'm very happy in my own company. At least, that's what I think they meant...


Loneliness is your future.But look on the bright side. You could be a miserable tosser like Zigenare - where loneliness isn't just his future, but his past and present. :ohwell

Tindog
10th November 2018, 12:39
I'm thinking of doing that. But I think I'm right in saying that most flats for rent are for minimum periods longer than the typical 3-month contract, so you are running a risk that you won't get extended (actually you are running a risk of early termination in all cases)

Have a look on SpareRoom - you can usually find rolling 1 month tenancies, or sublets. Look for anything with "short term lets considered" too.

I picked up mine and the landlord agreed to a 3 month + rolling 1 month instead of 9 months, as I'm taking off travelling in December. Private landlords are usually more flexible than agencies. (And house-share agencies in London are usually shitbags anyway)

Zigenare
11th November 2018, 12:58
But look on the bright side. You could be a miserable tosser like Zigenare - where loneliness isn't just his future, but his past and present. :ohwell

It has its advantages.

One being that I don't have to socialise with turds like you.