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Derben
30th November 2018, 19:40
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northernladuk
30th November 2018, 19:45
If they want to terminate you as per the contract there is nothing you can do. There maybe nothing left to do in your role but they were happy to hold on to you until the new work starts. You've decided you don't want to stay so they don't need you.

Seems a pretty straight forward situation. You've done your work, client doesn't need you so you are done. Welcome to contracting.

And it's not a salary you won't get. Try an understand your relationshio with the client and how the terms differ.

Why do you think you can't apply for for other roles?

Derben
30th November 2018, 20:07
If they want to terminate you as per the contract there is nothing you can do. There maybe nothing left to do in your role but they were happy to hold on to you until the new work starts. You've decided you don't want to stay so they don't need you.

Seems a pretty straight forward situation. You've done your work, client doesn't need you so you are done. Welcome to contracting.

And it's not a salary you won't get. Try an understand your relationshio with the client and how the terms differ.

Why do you think you can't apply for for other roles?

Thanks JB. Sorry I was told I couldn't move on to another contract until end-date expired, not necessary apply.

northernladuk
30th November 2018, 20:17
Thanks JB. Sorry I was told I couldn't move on to another contract until end-date expired, not necessary apply.But if that is only a week then what's to worry about?

Once they terminate you they can refuse to give you any work for that week and as you've no work, you've no timesheet and therefore no pay. Effective immediate termination.

Ask them if they are going to give you work for the notice. If they say no ask them to terminate you immediately and you become free to do what you want.

psychocandy
3rd December 2018, 11:06
All well and good NLUK but it is a bit poor form from client side if you ask me.

After all, we all moan when contractors bail early. Surely this is the same?

BlasterBates
3rd December 2018, 11:51
Thanks JB. Sorry I was told I couldn't move on to another contract until end-date expired, not necessary apply.

Yes you can I would say. Contracts need to be reasonable, courts are critical regarding handcuff clauses and I would have thought suing a contractor you'd laid off for accepting a follow on contract would probably not get very far. You could go and see a lawyer just to confirm it.

BlasterBates
3rd December 2018, 11:58
If you have a substitution clause, then just accept a new contract in the unlikely event they call for your services then send in a substitute, who you could probably easily recruit.

NickFitz
3rd December 2018, 12:46
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Can you add steps to reproduce in this thread (https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/general/129584-forum-update.html)? Ta :)

northernladuk
3rd December 2018, 13:02
All well and good NLUK but it is a bit poor form from client side if you ask me.

After all, we all moan when contractors bail early. Surely this is the same?It's a business decision based on their requirements.

You of all people are always harping on about doing best for number 1. Company is doing that so why are you complaining.

psychocandy
4th December 2018, 11:21
It's a business decision based on their requirements.

You of all people are always harping on about doing best for number 1. Company is doing that so why are you complaining.

No I agree. If contract says they can terminate wth notice then thats fine by me. But some of you lot criticise when the contractor does the same thing.

northernladuk
4th December 2018, 11:32
No I agree. If contract says they can terminate wth notice then thats fine by me. But some of you lot criticise when the contractor does the same thing.

Because they are different. A client/supplier relationship is not a level playing field. The work has run out. There is nothing more for the contractor to do. He's not renewing so no point keeping him around until the next work starts so his time is done. Totally different to jumping ship every time someone get's a better offer.

If the client dumped him for a cheaper contractor then yes, I'd agree, poor form. But this isn't what's happening.

Your problem is that whatever a client does to a contractor get's you moaning. You don't look at the situation and differentiate between the valid reasons that are perfectly explainable and just part of what we do or the ones that are a bit cut throat. You just moan about every client and every situation that doesn't suit you. You've more in common with a miserable permie than a contractor running a business.

LondonManc
4th December 2018, 18:44
Because they are different. A client/supplier relationship is not a level playing field. The work has run out. There is nothing more for the contractor to do. He's not renewing so no point keeping him around until the next work starts so his time is done. Totally different to jumping ship every time someone get's a better offer.

If the client dumped him for a cheaper contractor then yes, I'd agree, poor form. But this isn't what's happening.

Your problem is that whatever a client does to a contractor get's you moaning. You don't look at the situation and differentiate between the valid reasons that are perfectly explainable and just part of what we do or the ones that are a bit cut throat. You just moan about every client and every situation that doesn't suit you. You've more in common with a miserable permie than a contractor running a business.

If the work has run out, it should be a race to terminate from both sides. Being kept on to do adhoc stuff drags you into IR35 territory.