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northernladuk
12th December 2018, 21:51
There is going to be a spot open soon. No work available from 20th Dec to 7th Jan so plenty of time off to enjoy with the family before getting stuck back in next year. Just thought I'd warn you of that.

Old Greg
12th December 2018, 21:54
There is going to be a spot open soon. No work available from 20th Dec to 7th Jan so plenty of time off to enjoy with the family before getting stuck back in next year. Just thought I'd warn you of that.

And they have low standards, so PC should get in there quick.

TestMangler
12th December 2018, 22:15
There is going to be a spot open soon. No work available from 20th Dec to 7th Jan so plenty of time off to enjoy with the family before getting stuck back in next year. Just thought I'd warn you of that.

I'd have taken that if I could work right through the holidays. No work for that period sounds like control to me.

Old Greg
12th December 2018, 22:18
I'd have taken that if I could work right through the holidays. No work for that period sounds like control to me.

Yes. Not working because there is no work required by the client puts you squarely inside IR35.

TestMangler
12th December 2018, 22:19
Yes. Not working because there is no work required by the client puts you squarely inside IR35.

Oh well, Employment Tribunal, here we come.....

Old Greg
12th December 2018, 22:26
Oh well, Employment Tribunal, here we come.....

It's possible that there is just no work for arseholes who are going to spoil the festive spirit.

Pondlife
12th December 2018, 22:35
I was so enjoying where that thread was going. What sort of a numpty threatens to sue Shell for saying there's no work over Christmas.

Also I just erm.. spoke at a mate, and he says that not all contractors have this furlough enforced, certainly those who are working on projects.

northernladuk
12th December 2018, 22:50
I was so enjoying where that thread was going. What sort of a numpty threatens to sue Shell for saying there's no work over Christmas.

Also I just erm.. spoke at a mate, and he says that not all contractors have this furlough enforced, certainly those who are working on projects.Damn lol. I wish I'd have just played with him a bit rather than getting all frustrated. Would have loved you to have posted that in there.

Lockhouse
13th December 2018, 06:44
No work, no money, no MOO. Every cloud....

original PM
13th December 2018, 07:48
So if I employ a builder but say to him that I do not want him banging about over xmas and to come back on the 2nd of January I am now his employer?

I think not.

MonkeysUncle
13th December 2018, 08:38
Credit to all those who kept posting in there. I would have given up after the first 3 pages of crap being said.

MrButton
13th December 2018, 08:47
Is it a FTC?


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Old Greg
13th December 2018, 09:13
Credit to all those who kept posting in there. I would have given up after the first 3 pages of crap being said.

We live to serve.

TestMangler
13th December 2018, 14:05
So if I employ a builder but say to him that I do not want him banging about over xmas and to come back on the 2nd of January I am now his employer?

I think not.

One does not 'employ' a builder to do work in ones house. One engages a builder to carry out a specific piece of work.

And if said builder wants to bang around over the Christmas holidays, there's nothing you can do to stop him, apparently. :laugh Expect a lawsuit in the post......

original PM
13th December 2018, 14:15
One does not 'employ' a builder to do work in ones house. One engages a builder to carry out a specific piece of work.

And if said builder wants to bang around over the Christmas holidays, there's nothing you can do to stop him, apparently. :laugh Expect a lawsuit in the post......

Hmm ok I'm going away over xmas and you will not have access to the property to work.

What you gonna do? come park your white van outside and read the Sun all day?

TestMangler
13th December 2018, 14:39
Hmm ok I'm going away over xmas and you will not have access to the property to work.

What you gonna do? come park your white van outside and read the Sun all day?

Does that not describe any normal working day for a builder ? :tongue

jmo21
13th December 2018, 20:37
He must have been trolling. Asks our opinion and ends by telling us his lawyer agrees with him.

It was a good chuckle while it lasted.

NotAllThere
14th December 2018, 07:11
Not a troll.

It seems that it's someone who runs a ltd co providing resource. The resources are employees of mcltd's company. mcltd isn't doing the work himself. It looks like these employees are provided on a standard contractor contract. Not sure IR35 applies at all. The situation seems to me more like when pwc or such ilk provide a consultant for a project.

At least that's what I glean from the drip drip of information in the original thread.

Old Greg
14th December 2018, 07:42
Not a troll.

It seems that it's someone who runs a ltd co providing resource. The resources are employees of mcltd's company. mcltd isn't doing the work himself. It looks like these employees are provided on a standard contractor contract. Not sure IR35 applies at all. The situation seems to me more like when pwc or such ilk provide a consultant for a project.

At least that's what I glean from the drip drip of information in the original thread.

In which case, what kind of cretin fails to confirm Christmas period working arrangements? Did he just assume that his resources would be wanted on site on Christmas Eve from 9 am to 530 pm?

WTFH
14th December 2018, 08:49
Hmm ok I'm going away over xmas ...

Is your wife going to be at home? If so, then the builder can come round banging every day, you don't need to worry, everyone is happy, and you pay him on your return.

original PM
14th December 2018, 08:55
Is your wife going to be at home? If so, then the builder can come round banging every day, you don't need to worry, everyone is happy, and you pay him on your return.

Well lets be honest it's always good to get the boiler serviced by someone else - saves me a messy dirty job where I'll be up to my elbows in greasy fluids.

;)