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    Seven MPs leave Labour Party in protest at Jeremy Corbyn's leadership - BBC News

    Seven Labour MP's leave Labour.

    Who can blame them? Imagine trying to defend JC to your constituents.

    The SDP is reborn.


    #2
    Quite. There's merit in more moderate Labour policies, a rather more equal society probably reduces crime, keeping some services in the public sector seems to have done France no harm, but Corbyn's ideas are lunatic. They have never worked and never will.

    Extreme socialism destroys incentive. If people cannot benefit from their own abilities they either stop trying or seek power within the state apparatus. Socialism is not compatible with democracy or high economic performance. What communist state was not a relatively poor and corrupt dictatorship?

    He thinks there is money to splash on everything, free student courses, re-nationalising industries regardless of purpose, increasing benefits to all.

    This Venezuala-supporting idiot should be in a loony bin, not the House of Commons.
    bloggoth

    If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
    John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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      #3
      The Conservative party should split too.

      One Blairite group and another traditional conservative wing.

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        #4
        i follow a lot of labour die hards on the old twitter, ordinarily they quick to jump on every type of "ism" or support the case of the oppressed

        but when it comes to antisemitism within Corbyn's labour they;re strangely quiet or reserved in their criticism

        on the surface i would attribute this to pure tribalism but i think deeper down antisemitism is a feature and not a bug of socialist ideology

        Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
        Quite. There's merit in more moderate Labour policies, a rather more equal society probably reduces crime, keeping some services in the public sector seems to have done France no harm, but Corbyn's ideas are lunatic. They have never worked and never will.

        Extreme socialism destroys incentive. If people cannot benefit from their own abilities they either stop trying or seek power within the state apparatus. Socialism is not compatible with democracy or high economic performance. What communist state was not a relatively poor and corrupt dictatorship?

        He thinks there is money to splash on everything, free student courses, re-nationalising industries regardless of purpose, increasing benefits to all.

        This Venezuala-supporting idiot should be in a loony bin, not the House of Commons.

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          #5
          I have alot of admiration for the seven who have jumped ship from their own party.
          Not an easy decision but so damning that they can call their own party racist and their own leader a national security threat.
          As they say the party has been taken over by the hard left - the hard socialists - and is completely different to their new Labour. dream. And a bigger threat to our economy.

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            #6
            The gang of seven have now had their 5 minutes of fame.

            I eagerly await the 7 by elections.

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              #7
              Originally posted by GreenMirror View Post
              The gang of seven have now had their 5 minutes of fame.

              I eagerly await the 7 by elections.
              Why? Their constituents had their vote two years ago. Just because the facts have changed since then, is no reason to give them another vote.

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                #8
                Oddly in all of the coverage (of which there was lots) they never once asked how the 7 stood on the B issue. Odd when every other report mentioned it, even when already discounted, and I bet May would like a vote of confidence.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by GreenMirror View Post
                  The gang of seven have now had their 5 minutes of fame.

                  I eagerly await the 7 by elections.
                  A by-election does not automatically take place if an MP changes political party.
                  Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by NigelJK View Post
                    Oddly in all of the coverage (of which there was lots) they never once asked how the 7 stood on the B issue. Odd when every other report mentioned it, even when already discounted, and I bet May would like a vote of confidence.
                    Was in the TV interview last night. C4 news I think. Both remainers.
                    bloggoth

                    If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
                    John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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