Petition against Car travel Tax!

**Ardesco** · 4 January 2007, 12:32

What's the point, do you really think el gordo is going to change his mind because a few million people don't like the idea?

**PerlOfWisdom** · 4 January 2007, 12:35

How about a petition to abolish tax. And crime.

**gingerjedi** · 4 January 2007, 12:40

Originally posted by PerlOfWisdom

How about a petition to abolish tax. And crime.

Just the sort of apathetic answer NL rely on, Its not just about the tax, they will know where you are and how fast you are going... sit back and be buggered by El Gordo if you like, I'll go down kicking and screaming.

**The Lone Gunman** · 4 January 2007, 12:41

Gordo doesnt care. Most of the signatories will be tories anyway.
The chavs who vote labour will probably save money or be given a tax refund due to being too poor to pay in the first place.

[edit]BTW. I signed it weeks ago.

**Bagpuss** · 4 January 2007, 12:47

Direct action is the only way.

BTW don't the tories want road pricing?

edit:

Labour and Tories back pay-as-you-drive
By David Millward, Transport Correspondent
Last Updated: 1:51am GMT 01/12/2006

The prospect of motorists facing pay-as-you-drive road pricing has increased after the Tories joined an all party consensus on the need for radical steps to tackle congestion.

Chris Grayling, the party's transport spokesman, set out his proposals as the Government prepared to publish the results of an 18 month study today by Sir Rod Eddington, the former chief executive of British Airways, tomorrow.

According to Whitehall sources, Sir Rod has backed "demand management" - or charging people more to drive cars on busy roads in the rush hour - as a tool to tackle congestion.

The only major difference between the parties seemed to be that while the Government is wedded to the introduction of a national road pricing scheme some time over the next decade, the Tories want local road pricing schemes in cities and more tolling on motorways.

Should the Tories win power at the next election, Mr Grayling said that it would not scrap any road pricing pilot studies already in place and would probably start fresh trials as well.

While the Tories' support for the principle of road-pricing has been established, this was the first time the party has committed itself to running schemes additional to those they might inherit.
Both Sir Rod and the Tories appear to have agreed on the need to invest heavily in a number of small schemes, which would eliminate pinch points on the transport network - both on the roads and on rail.

Both appear to have backed the principle of more "targeted" investment in roads.

It is understood Sir Rod's report will back proposals to add to rail capacity and ease overcrowding on the busiest commuter trains by lengthening platforms to allow for longer trains.

"Our focus will be on quick wins, during the lifetime of our first Parliament," the Tory transport document said. "We believe that the right mix of smaller projects, for example longer trains, improvements to individual bottlenecks on the roads, making improvements to transport interchanges, represents the best way to start making a difference quickly."

The biggest difference between the Eddington and the Tory proposals is in the future of high speed rail travel. Sir Rod, the Daily Telegraph has learned, is likely to come out against a high-speed north south rail line.

He apparently has made no mention whatsoever of the heavily-hyped Maglev scheme - such as that running from Shanghai airport to the fringes of the city at more than 300 mph.

Mr Grayling and his allies believe ruling out high speed rail would be a mistake and have voiced fears that the Eddington review will pave the way for an expansion of domestic aviation, despite the growing concern about the environmental impact of the inexorable growth of air travel.

**wendigo100** · 4 January 2007, 13:04

Pay-as-you-go and road-pricing will not significantly reduce traffic congestion. Anyone with at least an ounce of brains can see that.

**Troll** · 4 January 2007, 13:07

Originally posted by Bagpuss

Direct action is the only way.

Feck... I agree with the cat

**ChimpMaster** · 4 January 2007, 13:09

Originally posted by wendigo100

Pay-as-you-go and road-pricing will not significantly reduce traffic congestion. Anyone with at least an ounce of brains can see that.

Yes but Labour and their supporters do not have "an ounce of brain".

Ken puts up tube/train prices, oil companies and government force up the cost of driving -- so what are we supposed to do, walk?

**gingerjedi** · 4 January 2007, 13:13

Originally posted by TazMaN

Yes but Labour and their supporters do not have "an ounce of brain".

Ken puts up tube/train prices, oil companies and government force up the cost of driving -- so what are we supposed to do, walk?

Have you not heard of the new 'shoe leather tax' due to be phased in during 2008?

Petition against Car travel Tax!