redundancy rules!

**Churchill** · 29 January 2007, 15:13

Originally posted by kramer

Just wanna know about redundancy rules

One of the permies has been "offered" redundancy and on the same day they are offering his same role on internal vacancy but in a junior role..

Can they make him redundant by down grading his job??

The job is redundant, not the job holder...

**kramer** · 29 January 2007, 15:17

so what you saying? if the role has been down graded is the role redundant cause its been redefined?

basically its cost cutting i guess... bu does it follow employment law?

**ASB** · 29 January 2007, 16:17

Originally posted by kramer

bu does it follow employment law?

Doesn't sound like it does. Talk to acas.

**BoredBloke** · 29 January 2007, 16:29

"The job is redundant, not the job holder..."

Spot on. In this case the role is being given to a jnr mmber of staff, so technically the role still exists. Sounds like they just want shut of the more expensive guy - seems an odd way to do it though. Why not simply make his role so horrible that he would resign.

**Churchill** · 29 January 2007, 16:30

Originally posted by TonyEnglish

"The job is redundant, not the job holder..."

Spot on. In this case the role is being given to a jnr mmber of staff, so technically the role still exists. Sounds like they just want shut of the more expensive guy - seems an odd way to do it though. Why not simply make his role so horrible that he would resign.

Says the boy from Rochdale, birthplace of the Co-Operative movement!!!

Classic!

**Sockpuppet** · 29 January 2007, 16:34

Originally posted by kramer

so what you saying? if the role has been down graded is the role redundant cause its been redefined?

Yes. If the need for that specific role (or one very similar to it) is no longer needed then they are made redundant.

By offering him a lower graded job they are trying to get out of paying redundancy. AFAIK as long as the role is commensuate (sp?) to the level of the person (i.e. not a £5k p.a. cleaner role for a cheif exec) then even if he doesnt accept then he cannot claim redundancy money as he was offered alternative work.

**BoredBloke** · 29 January 2007, 16:59

"Says the boy from Rochdale, birthplace of the Co-Operative movement!!!"

I moved here!

Just don't see why a company would pay him off whn they can give him such a dead end role that he would leave

**wendigo100** · 29 January 2007, 17:58

Originally posted by TonyEnglish

"Says the boy from Rochdale, birthplace of the Co-Operative movement!!!"

I moved here!

Just don't see why a company would pay him off whn they can give him such a dead end role that he would leave

Rochdale? You bastard! I support the Dons...

**BoredBloke** · 29 January 2007, 19:11

LOL - that was their biggest win of the season also. Up to now they have been the team which everybody likes to beat. Where are you these days Marc

redundancy rules!