What happened to the good IT jobs?

**DimPrawn** · 21 February 2007, 19:04

What happened to all the good IT jobs?

http://forums.contractoruk.com/thread14818.html

**Francko** · 21 February 2007, 19:08

Originally posted by DimPrawn

What happened to all the good IT jobs?

http://forums.contractoruk.com/thread14818.html

That's why they need an army of release managers/proj mgrs/business analysts.... to cover the mess they are doing....

**HankWangford** · 21 February 2007, 19:24

Originally posted by Francko

And why there are all these ads in jobserve for jobs of 30-50k or contract for 250/300 pounds (in London I mean - perhaps outside this might be ok)?

Would you really work in IT for this money? I'd rather do something else.

I see where the money is gone now.... just go and make a search for business analyst, release manager and so on...

Question: how are they going to do a project without people of a certain IT knowledge and experience? Shall we all jump on a bandwagon?

Well, I have an ITIL certificate, for most that seems the only thing that got them the job. Or else let's do Prince 2 in the weekend.... and on monday I'll wake up as a project manager.

Shall we all jump on the new band wagon? Is this only temporary or IT is doomed to fail again?

rates shocking at the moment, gone down 20% over past few months.
jobs outside of london are sparse.
it's just losing all appeal this lark

**Cowboy Bob** · 21 February 2007, 19:44

Depends what area you're in. Java/J2EE is booming with rates at least £350 and plenty over £400 - even outside London. A quick search of Jobserve permie roles also shows J2EE is quite healthy with salaries of £60k+ not uncommon.

**threaded** · 21 February 2007, 19:46

Java is a legacy language. .Net is the future.

**Cowboy Bob** · 21 February 2007, 20:13

Originally posted by threaded

Java is a legacy language. .Net is the future.

.NET could be the future if you could run it cross-platform - not everyone is an MS shop - and no, Mono doesn't count.

.NET (C# in particular) looks good, but I've yet to work anywhere that runs MS stuff across the entire server room which is pretty much a requirement for .NET

**Diestl** · 21 February 2007, 20:31

Originally posted by Cowboy Bob

.NET could be the future if you could run it cross-platform - not everyone is an MS shop - and no, Mono doesn't count.

.NET (C# in particular) looks good, but I've yet to work anywhere that runs MS stuff across the entire server room which is pretty much a requirement for .NET

.NET where possible then talk to other systems using web services. That is the future.

**Cowboy Bob** · 21 February 2007, 20:32

Originally posted by Diestl

.NET where possible then talk to other systems using web services. That is the future.

And what language are the web services running on the other systems written in? Would still be plenty of J2EE work even in that (worst case) scenario. Java's not going anywhere in a hurry, so there's still plenty of £££s for me to make.

**VectraMan** · 21 February 2007, 20:46

Surely .NET is the past by now? It's been around for ages.

What happened to the good IT jobs?