33 killed and 26 injured at a university campus in Virginia

**threaded** · 17 April 2007, 07:40

It's global warming innit.

**andy** · 17 April 2007, 07:44

Those who live by the gun .... blah blah

**Troll** · 17 April 2007, 07:47

Sh*t happens

**EternalOptimist** · 17 April 2007, 07:52

never take a knife to a gunfight

**Euro-commuter** · 17 April 2007, 07:55

Originally posted by andy

Those who live by the gun .... blah blah

It's not the gun, it's the people. Gun ownership is widespread in, for example, Belgium and Switzerland, but gun-related murders no more common than in e.g. the UK or Germany (less than 100 a year). And gun control laws in European countries (incl UK) and Australia and New Zealand have seemingly had little effect on gun crime: they always were less vilent countries. The USA always was a violent country.

(widespread gun ownership correlates with higher suicide rates, but not higher murder rates).

**BoredBloke** · 17 April 2007, 08:06

I think the statistic you should be looking at is the proportion of really stupid people owning guns. In the US that is quite high since there are a lot of guns and a lot of really stupid people.

**DodgyAgent** · 17 April 2007, 08:07

Originally posted by Lambros

At least 20 people, including the suspected gunman, were killed in a shooting rampage at Virginia Tech university on Monday.

Shocked and horrified but it is the second time in less than a year that the Virginia Tech campus has been closed because of a shooting.

Deja vu
Numbers, numbers, numbers????

In the year 2006 the USA had over 16,000 killings.

What a bloody mess!!

These occasional acts of mass killing are just the tip of the iceberg.

31 students, 1 guard and the assassinator himself.
It's the most devastating rampage in the history of US.

Unfortunately they missed you

**NoddY** · 17 April 2007, 08:08

Originally posted by Lambros

In the year 2006 the USA had over 16,000 killings.

How many died as a result of terrorism?

How much money gets spent on the 'war on terror'?

Mismatch?

**wendigo100** · 17 April 2007, 08:31

Originally posted by Euro-commuter

It's not the gun, it's the people.

How many times have I heard that!

Look at it logically - without the gun the "people" couldn't shoot each other, could they! Some UK gangs have got hold of guns, and they shoot more people than those who haven't.

The availability of guns in an argument is much more dangerous than knives or baseball bats.

33 killed and 26 injured at a university campus in Virginia