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Euro-commuter
11th June 2007, 14:37
This test supposedly catches out racist attitudes, even if the subject tries to hide them. Pardon me, but I thought that racist action or speech was a crime, not subconscious attitude?

Indeed, someon may have unconsciously acquired some such attitude or response, but be consciously against it, and so deliberately never express it in word or deed: why should he be "caught as a racist"? Surely such a person is actually honourably and merits praise if anything, not censure, punishment, and being, well, discriminated against?

Or in fewer words, is it a crime to think something wrong, without saying or doing wrong?

sasguru
11th June 2007, 14:38
What test? Post a link so we can have a go

Old Greg
11th June 2007, 14:40
What test? Post a link so we can have a go
It's on the C UK news page. It looks like some academics have come up with something and are trying to flog it. I'm not sure it will find many buyers.

Ardesco
11th June 2007, 14:40
It's just the start. Nu Liebour have already been training some clarivoyants who can see into the future and they are going to attach them to a machine that records thier visions and plays them back for the enforcement community.

Using this technology they will be able to look into the future to see when people are going to commit crimes and acts of terrorism and apprehend said individuals before they can perform said crimes. They will then punish them accordingly for the crime they were about to commit. It's foolproff guvnor, nothing can go wrong.......

Rantor
11th June 2007, 14:40
This test supposedly catches out racist attitudes, even if the subject tries to hide them. Pardon me, but I thought that racist action or speech was a crime, not subconscious attitude?

Indeed, someon may have unconsciously acquired some such attitude or response, but be consciously against it, and so deliberately never express it in word or deed: why should he be "caught as a racist"? Surely such a person is actually honourably and merits praise if anything, not censure, punishment, and being, well, discriminated against?

Or in fewer words, is it a crime to think something wrong, without saying or doing wrong?

This is why I have gone back to wearing the tinfoil-lined balaclava. :nerd

Kyajae
11th June 2007, 15:38
This test supposedly catches out racist attitudes, even if the subject tries to hide them. Pardon me, but I thought that racist action or speech was a crime, not subconscious attitude?

Indeed, someon may have unconsciously acquired some such attitude or response, but be consciously against it, and so deliberately never express it in word or deed: why should he be "caught as a racist"? Surely such a person is actually honourably and merits praise if anything, not censure, punishment, and being, well, discriminated against?

Or in fewer words, is it a crime to think something wrong, without saying or doing wrong?


And we used to joke about the term "Thought Police"

threaded
11th June 2007, 17:31
I've had a look at that test, showed it, and had a talk to a couple of the trick cyclists at the university. No names, no pack drill, but they'd heard of the basis behind it and recon it is utter bollox. So if you get refused a job on the basis of that test you might be best off not working for such a dumb-ass, anal retentive, bunch of inbred onanists.

GreenerGrass
11th June 2007, 18:49
It's on the C UK news page. It looks like some academics have come up with something and are trying to flog it. I'm not sure it will find many buyers.

Greg, I thought you'd have welcomed it with open arms, and asked them to build add-on tests for the detection of Nazis.

Thankfully its unlikely to be adopted by any private sector company, especially in the City as I can't see many of the senior management that actually hire you passing the test themselves.
But just think, those distant childhood memories of shooting Robertson's jam jar lids with your airgun could make you unemployable in the public sector.

King Cnvt
11th June 2007, 18:54
This test supposedly catches out racist attitudes, even if the subject tries to hide them. Pardon me, but I thought that racist action or speech was a crime, not subconscious attitude?

Indeed, someon may have unconsciously acquired some such attitude or response, but be consciously against it, and so deliberately never express it in word or deed: why should he be "caught as a racist"? Surely such a person is actually honourably and merits praise if anything, not censure, punishment, and being, well, discriminated against?

Or in fewer words, is it a crime to think something wrong, without saying or doing wrong?

Is it something like what the LAPD used to have in their recruitment process?

They ask you to go out and shoot a coloured gentleman and a rabbit.

If you say "Why a rabbit?", you're in. :happy

Old Greg
11th June 2007, 18:59
Greg, I thought you'd have welcomed it with open arms, and asked them to build add-on tests for the detection of Nazis.

Thankfully its unlikely to be adopted by any private sector company, especially in the City as I can't see many of the senior management that actually hire you passing the test themselves.
But just think, those distant childhood memories of shooting Robertson's jam jar lids with your airgun could make you unemployable in the public sector.
I see nothing about Nazis here - I don't much care what people think, it's what they do that bothers me. Looks like a pile of crap promoted by academics and being picked up by the Telegraph.

I can't see the public sector having to do anything with this (although my experience is limited to NHS) as they don't have much truck with psychometrics (or they can't afford them), and as I said before - it's a pile of crap.