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css_jay99
2nd August 2007, 14:51
Hi all, I would like some questions regarding conservatories.
I am planning on doing one and my next door neighbour whos just had one fitted said it cost him about £11k from a high steet firm.
He also told me that if he had gone into B&Q or Argos for the units and then have someone come in and build a similar contruction would have cost him about half of what he spen.

mmmm that got me thinking :)

considering you lot earn a fortune anyway i doubt that you will go the cheaper route, anyway here goes:-


1) How good are these B&Q/Argos conservaratory units compared to the high street ones , quality & price wise.
2) same question goes for double glazings as well
3) Anyone recommend a good builder of conservatory / double glazing around bexleyheath/Dartford area at all :)

css_jay99

richard-af
2nd August 2007, 15:02
Hi all, I would like some questions regarding conservatories.
I am planning on doing one and my next door neighbour whos just had one fitted said it cost him about £11k from a high steet firm.
He also told me that if he had gone into B&Q or Argos for the units and then have someone come in and build a similar contruction would have cost him about half of what he spen.

mmmm that got me thinking :)

considering you lot earn a fortune anyway i doubt that you will go the cheaper route, anyway here goes:-


1) How good are these B&Q/Argos conservaratory units compared to the high street ones , quality & price wise.
2) same question goes for double glazings as well
3) Anyone recommend a good builder of conservatory / double glazing around bexleyheath/Dartford area at all :)

css_jay99

Get in Everest. Costs the Earth, but won't go yellow, leak, fall on your head, suffer condensation, etc.

Or buy crap for a few quid.

It's a part of your house - be careful! I speak from experience.

XTC
2nd August 2007, 15:06
I've always liked David Cameron. Charming chap.

Bagpuss
2nd August 2007, 15:13
Hi all, I would like some questions regarding conservatories.
I am planning on doing one and my next door neighbour whos just had one fitted said it cost him about £11k from a high steet firm.
He also told me that if he had gone into B&Q or Argos for the units and then have someone come in and build a similar contruction would have cost him about half of what he spen.

mmmm that got me thinking :)

considering you lot earn a fortune anyway i doubt that you will go the cheaper route, anyway here goes:-


1) How good are these B&Q/Argos conservaratory units compared to the high street ones , quality & price wise.
2) same question goes for double glazings as well
3) Anyone recommend a good builder of conservatory / double glazing around bexleyheath/Dartford area at all :)

css_jay99

It must have been a very big one for 11k. My parents just had one on a 4 bed detached, cost 7.5k, quality is top notch.

PS the B&Q ones are sh1te, plus you'll still need a brickie

richard-af
2nd August 2007, 15:16
It must have been a very big one for 11k. My parents just had one on a 4 bed detached, cost 7.5k, quality is top notch.

PS the B&Q ones are sh1te, plus you'll still need a brickie

And make sure you see and CHECK any insurance docs. any builder, brickie has.

Ardesco
2nd August 2007, 15:20
3) Anyone recommend a good builder of conservatory / double glazing around bexleyheath/Dartford area at all :)


If you want to do it cheaply, DIY. You are probably just as experianced as 60% of the guys that put them up for a living...

HTH

oraclesmith
2nd August 2007, 15:25
I've got a lovely hardwood conservatory from a reputable local joinery firm, double glazed with 5-ply polycarb roof. It cost about £7k plus a couple of thousand for the groundwork (dwarf wall, foundations).

The same firm did our windows (in hardwood) and they are far better looking and actually cheaper than the typical double-glazing firms plastic ones.

lukemg
2nd August 2007, 15:45
I've got one you can have, terrible glass box things they are. Always the wrong temperature, no good reason to sit in one (dining room use excepted) they look awful and deteriorate over time. There will be a massive number getting removed in the next 15 years I reckon. If you defo need the extra room - consider a proper sun room - mostly brick with tall windows and skylights.

King Cnvt
2nd August 2007, 15:48
I've got one you can have, terrible glass box things they are. Always the wrong temperature, no good reason to sit in one (dining room use excepted) they look awful and deteriorate over time. There will be a massive number getting removed in the next 15 years I reckon. If you defo need the extra room - consider a proper sun room - mostly brick with tall windows and skylights.


Good advice. Looks SO much better than a dirty white uPVC monster stuck on the brickwork.

Matching brickwork, skylights, tall windows and french doors. Class.

Bagpuss
2nd August 2007, 15:49
If you want to do it cheaply, DIY. You are probably just as experianced as 60% of the guys that put them up for a living...

HTH

I disagree, the groundwork/flooring and walls have to be done right or it will leak like a sieve.

My parents got theirs from these guys, they don't cover where you live but maybe if you contact them they can put you in touch with a good company in your area. They charged just under 8k for the victorian inclusive of flooring, walls, blinds, fans the lot. It might have cost 6k as a DIY, but then it would look 6k


www.planetpvc.co.uk

Ardesco
2nd August 2007, 15:50
I disagree, the groundwork/flooring and walls have to be done right or it will leak like a sieve.

And i'm sure that 40% of the people that put them in for a living will do it properly!!

richard-af
2nd August 2007, 15:54
I've got one you can have, terrible glass box things they are. Always the wrong temperature, no good reason to sit in one (dining room use excepted) they look awful and deteriorate over time. There will be a massive number getting removed in the next 15 years I reckon. If you defo need the extra room - consider a proper sun room - mostly brick with tall windows and skylights.

Agreed. They are one of the silliest things imaginable. And yet add value to a house. South-facing ones are a bit loopy though! Unless you are a cactus.

Bagpuss
2nd August 2007, 15:56
And i'm sure that 40% of the people that put them in for a living will do it properly!!

Agreed, that's why you go with recommendations

Ardesco
2nd August 2007, 16:00
Agreed, that's why you go with recommendations

So you are actually arguing with me because we are in agreement?

:eek

:laugh

richard-af
2nd August 2007, 16:03
Or a Lizard... :glasses

Or David Dickinson!

ASB
2nd August 2007, 16:18
Don't forget planning permission. Can be required. Don't beleive what the installer tells you about the pp requirements.

Bagpuss
2nd August 2007, 16:21
So you are actually arguing with me because we are in agreement?

:eek

:laugh

Yes, ...I mean No, grrr

css_jay99
2nd August 2007, 16:55
cheers guys.

all these coments kinda sums it up really:-

Dont go the DIY/B&Q/Argos route
Get a recommendation

I think I will have to give the conservatory a miss this side of the year !

dont even know what i was thinking off !... my contract ends next month!

Anyone knows if there any investment banking(oracle) contracts going at the mo :D

css_jay99

richard-af
2nd August 2007, 17:43
cheers guys.

all these coments kinda sums it up really:-

Dont go the DIY/B&Q/Argos route
Get a recommendation

I think I will have to give the conservatory a miss this side of the year !

dont even know what i was thinking off !... my contract ends next month!

Anyone knows if there any investment banking(oracle) contracts going at the mo :D

css_jay99

Bloody timewaster!

chicane
2nd August 2007, 19:18
Bloody timewaster!

Total Posts: 427 (41.60 posts per day) :eek:
Are you on the bench?

Ardesco
3rd August 2007, 09:08
Don't forget planning permission. Can be required. Don't beleive what the installer tells you about the pp requirements.

Didn't they change the rules recently so that you can extend you house by a certain percentage without planning permission?

chicane
3rd August 2007, 09:14
Didn't they change the rules recently so that you can extend you house by a certain percentage without planning permission?

Yes - our conservatory is about 3 x 3 metres and no planning permission was required.

Chugnut
3rd August 2007, 09:14
Didn't they change the rules recently so that you can extend you house by a certain percentage without planning permission?

I didn't think this was recent. Permitted Development allows you to build an extension (single storey only I think) of up to 15% of the size of the current house without Planning Permission, with only Building Control consent required.

However, you still need planning permission if it's within a certain distance from the nearest road/boundaries, etc. There will be all sorts of other factors to consider as well.

To be honest, the poxy regs change all the time and people in the trade have a hard enough time keeping up with them, let alone me.

css_jay99
9th August 2007, 14:15
I had a high street double glazer in over the weekend for a quotation for 7 windows and patio door, and she quoted me £19K !.
I almost died of laughter considering my next door neigbour only spent about £3.5K for the same job with the same company 1yr ago. she also kept me hostage for 2 hrs in my house explaining why theirs was the best.

I told her i would not even be interested if they took 90% off the price due to dishonesty....



jeeze maybe I am nin the wrong business

Ardesco
9th August 2007, 15:28
Should have said:

"I won't buy it unless you sleep with me!"

Then afterwards as you are escorting her out of your house say:

"Not nice being lied to, is it?"

richard-af
9th August 2007, 15:39
Should have said:

"I won't buy it unless you sleep with me!"

Then afterwards as you are escorting her out of your house say:

"Not nice being lied to, is it?"

Careful with the old "Sleep with the Rep and then welsh on the deal" approach. SafeStyle have probably got a Clause that ties you in.

Ardesco
9th August 2007, 15:40
Careful with the old "Sleep with the Rep and then welsh on the deal" approach. SafeStyle have probably got a Clause that ties you in.

Only if you get her preggers!!

richard-af
9th August 2007, 15:58
Only if you get her preggers!!
SafeStyle Reps can reproduce asexually.

Ardesco
9th August 2007, 15:59
DNA test would soon prove that it's not yours.

ASB
9th August 2007, 17:01
Didn't they change the rules recently so that you can extend you house by a certain percentage without planning permission?

You are referring to permitted development rights, these have been around for ages and do allow the extension from the original floorspace without planning permissions. However a lot of property - particularly anything built within the last 15 or so years does NOT have permitted development rights - these are given up as part of the original PP for the development.

Also under current rules it is often the case thay any extension - which must comply to building regs - means that the entire property must also be upgraded to comply with current buildiing regs. [Gas condensing boiler, thermal efficient etc.]

ASB
9th August 2007, 17:09
Yes - our conservatory is about 3 x 3 metres and no planning permission was required.

I assume you therefore asked you planning authority. If you didn't you are likely OK provided:-

your property is not listed
you are not in a conservation area
floorspace is < 30 m2 (obviously is)
no drainage
it's ground level
door to rest of property
roof is transparent

you still have enough PDR left allowing for any previous extension and/or total/partial withdrawl of PDR.

A conservatory does not generally need building regs.