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    And so it begins 2

    http://www.fool.co.uk/news/property-...oowftxt0010011

    House Prices Start To Fall In London

    By Cliff D'Arcy | 9 August 2007
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    Property pundits claim that the UK is currently experiencing a two-tier property market. They admit that that most of the country is experiencing a slowdown, with price falls in some parts of England. But they also say that house-price rises are still strong in London and parts of the South East.

    Price rises have been particularly pronounced in upmarket parts of the capital, driven by the vast wealth generated by the City and the very deep pockets of foreign buyers. So, on the surface, everything is hunky dory for London homeowners.

    However, if we scratch below the surface, we find that property prices have been falling in certain parts of the capital. Using quarterly data from the Land Registry recording house sales between April and June, here are the cracks that I found. (Note that there can be a considerable time delay before some housing sales are recorded on the Land Registry, so the following figures reflect sales early in the year, rather than in the middle of 2007.)

    In the past quarter, house prices have fallen or remained static in the following London boroughs:

    All Properties

    Borough

    Price fall

    No. of sales

    Camden

    -3.6%

    756

    City of London

    -2.8%

    56

    Kensington and Chelsea

    no change

    855




    Prices have fallen in the millionaires' playground, and recent turmoil in world financial markets suggested that there's more pain to come in the City when those huge annual bonuses are slashed. Also, even in swish K&C -- the richest borough in the entire UK -- house prices failed to rise over this quarter.

    Detached Properties

    Sales of detached properties are few and far between in London, largely because of a shortage of space to build large family homes. Hence, house-price changes for these premium properties are subject to fluctuations. For example, the Land Registry lists only three detached properties to change hands in Hackney in this quarter. Nevertheless, as you can see, prices for top-end properties have fallen in ten London boroughs for sales recorded at the Land Registry between March and July:

    Borough

    Price fall

    No. of sales

    Lewisham

    -23.6%

    18

    Hounslow

    -16.5%

    29

    Hackney

    -10.9%

    3

    Barking and Dagenham

    -8.5%

    4

    Sutton

    -7.7%

    64

    Harrow

    -5.9%

    76

    Richmond upon Thames

    -4.2%

    73

    Hillingdon

    -3.2%

    136

    Brent

    -2.1%

    40

    Haringey

    -2.0%

    17




    Semi-Detached Properties

    Again, some of the figures below have been skewed by virtue of only a few sales being recorded. Nevertheless, prices of semi-detached homes have fallen in these seven boroughs:

    Borough

    Price fall

    No. of sales

    City of Westminster

    -39.9%

    5

    Tower Hamlets

    -32.2%

    11

    Lambeth

    -8.9%

    68

    Kensington and Chelsea

    -5.6%

    10

    Barking and Dagenham

    -3.0%

    63

    Newham

    -2.1%

    22

    Wandsworth

    -0.1%

    92




    Ignoring the bizarre swings in the City of Westminster and Tower Hamlets, there seem to be clear signs of recent weakness in the property markets of Lambeth, Kensington and Chelsea, and Barking and Dagenham.

    Terraced Properties

    Terraced homes are the bread-and-butter business of estate agents, so let's see how they've fared in Q2 2007:

    Borough

    Price fall

    No. of sales

    Camden

    -25.4%

    66

    City of Westminster

    -6.6%

    103

    Richmond upon Thames

    -2.9%

    308




    Again, we can safely ignore most of the huge shift in Camden, but the City of Westminster and leafy LBRUT look a little shaky. By the way, it's worth noting that prices of terraced properties have fallen by 1% over the past year in Camden, which may come as a surprise to homeowners in that area.

    Flats

    When weakness starts appearing in the property ladder, it's usually the lower rungs that begin to crack first. However, the average price of a flat has dropped in just two London boroughs so far:

    Borough

    Price fall

    No. of sales

    Greenwich

    -2.4%

    371

    Harrow

    -0.7%

    327




    Summary

    Of course, the good news is that historic yearly house-price inflation is still in double digits in most London boroughs. However, after accounting for general inflation (the Retail Prices Index is currently 4.4%) average prices have fallen in real terms over the past year only in Harrow ( up 3.7%) and Hounslow (up 3.8%). Then again, I suspect that the data from our survey suggest that the rises won't continue much longer.

    What's more, I'd bet any money that estate agents in Harrow and Hounslow won't be passing on the news of average 'real' (after inflation) falls in their areas to potential sellers and buyers!
    There are no evil thoughts except one: the refusal to think

    #2
    Sadly, although inflation is at least 4% (probably nearer 6% if the truth were ever told), peoples pay is not going up anywhere near that.

    So in real terms, the erosion of peoples earnings makes house prices look even more unaffordable.

    Luckily, the Non-Domicile brigade (ie. all the rich Russians) are immune to tax rises and don't have to pay stamp duty on buying, so they are laughing.

    It's the poor f*ckers born here who are screwed.

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      #3
      Originally posted by DimPrawn
      Sadly, although inflation is at least 4% (probably nearer 6% if the truth were ever told), peoples pay is not going up anywhere near that.

      So in real terms, the erosion of peoples earnings makes house prices look even more unaffordable.

      Luckily, the Non-Domicile brigade (ie. all the rich Russians) are immune to tax rises and don't have to pay stamp duty on buying, so they are laughing.

      It's the poor f*ckers born here who are screwed.
      Anyone know (approximately) how much pay has been rising over the last few years?

      I thought I heard/read not too long ago that it had risen a fair bit or was that for people at a certain level only (execs and above).

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        #4
        Even in property hotspots, to moves to decrease the value of work further:

        http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/disp...entPK=17906773

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          #5
          House Prices Start To Fall In London ?

          The FT doesn't think so: FT: London house price rises race away
          Drivel is my speciality

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            #6
            Originally posted by Buffoon
            House Prices Start To Fall In London ?

            The FT doesn't think so: FT: London house price rises race away
            yes but that was yesterday. today is a different day.

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              #7
              Originally posted by DimPrawn
              Sadly, although inflation is at least 4% (probably nearer 6% if the truth were ever told), peoples pay is not going up anywhere near that.

              So in real terms, the erosion of peoples earnings makes house prices look even more unaffordable.

              Luckily, the Non-Domicile brigade (ie. all the rich Russians) are immune to tax rises and don't have to pay stamp duty on buying, so they are laughing.

              It's the poor f*ckers born here who are screwed.
              We are so blessed to have a wonderful chancellor that allows such wealthy people to live here without paying a red cent of tax. Truely blessed.

              Stamp duty has had its day - an obsolete tax that should have gone out with the monarchy. Unfortunately the army is too well equiped now for us to have a revolution. But considering most of it is abroad.......
              McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
              Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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                #8
                Originally posted by lilelvis2000
                We are so blessed to have a wonderful chancellor that allows such wealthy people to live here without paying a red cent of tax. Truely blessed.

                Stamp duty has had its day - an obsolete tax that should have gone out with the monarchy. Unfortunately the army is too well equiped now for us to have a revolution. But considering most of it is abroad.......
                Just think of all the shoe-shine boys benefiting form the 'trickle-down' effect (remember that?).

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