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Old Greg
29th August 2007, 10:04
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6968105.stm

What are they going to do about it? Bang 'em all up and throw away the key?

VectraMan
29th August 2007, 10:15
POA representatives at Wormwood Scrubs prison, in west London, said the 1,300 prisoners were being looked after by eight governors.

That's good then.

Muttley08
29th August 2007, 10:19
That's good then.

The governers are normally the civil service's 'fast track' finest...very comforting...I don't think

Old Greg
29th August 2007, 10:23
The governers are normally the civil service's 'fast track' finest...very comforting...I don't think

I wouldn't be surprised if everyone is locked in their cells. Still, looks like the way to win a strike. Australian nurses did something similar a few years back and the government said military nurses could cover critical / emergency cases. It didn't take them long to change their mind.

wendigo100
29th August 2007, 11:26
There's a bloke in my cricket team who was a bolshy screw, but he's just been promoted to management and now he moans about bolshy screws.

I'm not sure if he's striking or not.

Old Greg
29th August 2007, 12:17
There's a bloke in my cricket team who was a bolshy screw, but he's just been promoted to management and now he moans about bolshy screws.

I'm not sure if he's striking or not.

(To the tune of The Red Flag)

The working class can kiss my arse.
I've got the foreman's job at last.

Churchill
29th August 2007, 13:01
From the Beeb...


The Ministry of Justice has been granted a High Court injunction against a national strike by thousands of prison officers protesting over pay.

Btw, what the feck is "The Ministry of Justice"? Some offshoot of the home office?

I must've been asleep...

NoddY
29th August 2007, 13:03
From the Beeb...



Btw, what the feck is "The Ministry of Justice"? Some offshoot of the home office?

I must've been asleep...

Yes. From Wikiepedia:

"The Ministry of Justice is a department of the government of the United Kingdom, reorganized from the former Department for Constitutional Affairs. It also took over responsibility for sentencing policy, probation, prisons and prevention of re-offending in England and Wales from the Home Office on 9 May 2007. The department is located in Selborne House on Victoria Street in Westminster, London."


BTW, does anyone know the difference between a "Ministry" and a "Government Department"?

wendigo100
29th August 2007, 13:03
From the Beeb...



Btw, what the feck is "The Ministry of Justice"? Some offshoot of the home office?

I must've been asleep...You must have been. This was slipped in a few months ago, to align us with third world tin-pot dictatorships.

Old Greg
29th August 2007, 13:18
You must have been. This was slipped in a few months ago, to align us with third world tin-pot dictatorships.

Like Sweden.

The Lone Gunman
29th August 2007, 13:40
Ministry of Justice.

Isn't that where Judge Dredd works? Or is it from Orwel?

Old Greg
29th August 2007, 13:49
Ministry of Justice.

Isn't that where Judge Dredd works? Or is it from Orwel?

Dredd, I think. 1984 has:

minipax (peace)
miniluv (love)
minitruth (truth)

The Orewllian ones were when they changed the Minstries of Unemployment and War to Emolyment and Defence.

Buffoon
29th August 2007, 13:50
Ministry of Justice.

Isn't that where Judge Dredd works? Or is it from Orwel?It’s definitely Orwellian – in 1984 all the ministries were given names opposite to what they actually did.

wendigo100
29th August 2007, 14:06
Like Sweden.Like Iraq, Iran, Zimbabwe, Syria, China.

wendigo100
29th August 2007, 14:07
It’s definitely Orwellian – in 1984 all the ministries were given names opposite to what they actually did.Like our Ministry of Defence in Iraq? :wink

The Lone Gunman
29th August 2007, 14:09
Like our Ministry of Defence in Iraq? :winkBut everyone knows that the best form of defence is to get your knock out blow in first!

Old Greg
29th August 2007, 14:09
Like Iraq, Iran, Zimbabwe, Syria, China.

So quite a range of countries in all. I don't read much into a departmental de-merger. Much more concerned about ID cards and surveillance.