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Francko
25th November 2007, 20:00
Ah, bella! There is only one word for it.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/212805/fiat_500.html


Fiat 500
Little 500’s a big winner
New 500 wins 2008 European Car Of The Year.

21st November 2007


Fiat’s new 500 supermini has been voted the 2008 European Car Of The Year.

The combination of retro looks, a gorgeous interior and low prices – from £7,900 in the UK – won the hearts of the 58 judges, who awarded it 385 points. The second-placed Mazda 2 supermini claimed 325 marks. It’s the 13th time a Fiat Group model has won in the award’s 44-year history.

In third place was the latest Ford Mondeo, on 202 points. It was followed by the Kia Cee’d (166), Nissan Qashqai (147), Mercedes C-Class (128) and Peugeot 308 (97)

El_Diablo
25th November 2007, 20:04
Good for a run around. Cheap and kinda cute.

sasguru
25th November 2007, 20:51
Have to say I like it - and when the Aygo dies (sometime in 2033) I might get one.

Francko
25th November 2007, 20:58
Have to say I like it - and when the Aygo dies (sometime in 2033) I might get one.

The aygo is pretty too (if it was an iron)

sasguru
25th November 2007, 21:17
The aygo is pretty too (if it was an iron)

Perfect for carrying 4 Waitrose bags:grin

oraclesmith
25th November 2007, 22:14
I'll take two. One for each foot.

DimPrawn
26th November 2007, 09:56
In third place was the latest Ford Mondeo, on 202 points. It was followed by the Kia Cee’d (166), Nissan Qashqai (147), Mercedes C-Class (128) and Peugeot 308 (97).

FFS, are these people idiots? The Passat is not even on the podium...:tired

Bagpuss
26th November 2007, 10:57
The fiat Strada was car of the year and IIRC the Fiat Regatta:laugh

sasguru
26th November 2007, 10:59
Does the Fiat qualify for £35 tax?
And possibly no congestion or parking charges if Ken has his way?
If not what's the point?

DimPrawn
26th November 2007, 11:01
sasguru, during a recent test drive of the Fiat 500, the driver was able to drive and peel an orange in his pocket at the same time, so it might be the perfect car for you.

sasguru
26th November 2007, 11:09
sasguru, during a recent test drive of the Fiat 500, the driver was able to drive and peel an orange in his pocket at the same time, so it might be the perfect car for you.

I'd buy it if it came with a free BTL :laugh

threaded
26th November 2007, 11:17
The 4x4, when it arrives, should be a right bundle of fun. :D

Churchill
26th November 2007, 11:20
My new car arrives on 25th March 2008.
:banana:

sasguru
26th November 2007, 12:32
My new car arrives on 25th March 2008.
:banana:

I'm glad you have something to look forward to in your otherwise sad and empty life.

Churchill
26th November 2007, 12:36
I'm glad you have something to look forward to in your otherwise sad and empty life.

You're nice.

I just thought I'd update the congregation on the result of my test-drive and "consultation" with the nice lady from Audi.

sasguru
26th November 2007, 12:38
You're nice.

I just thought I'd update the congregation on the result of my test-drive and "consultation" with the nice lady from Audi.

:wink

Churchill
26th November 2007, 12:40
:wink

No, no, you're not getting round me that easily.

I've seen me arse!

sasguru
26th November 2007, 12:42
I've seen me arse!

Well done. Now you just need to work out where your elbow is ...

:laugh :laugh

threaded
26th November 2007, 15:50
Saw a film over the weekend with them two from "Lock, Stock..". A nice Audi model got itself a staring roll. Well, several Audis got themselves in the staring roll, but I recon at least 6 were written off in the various stunts. Looks like it can be a fun car if you can drive and can afford the tires.

realityhack
26th November 2007, 15:54
A nice Audi model got itself a staring roll. Well, several Audis got themselves in the staring roll
I was staring at that for a while trying to work out what it meant. You need to add a few rs.

Arrr.

realityhack
26th November 2007, 16:13
Oh. Go here (http://www.fiat.co.uk/Showroom/?campaignid=bravo_launch_uk_0607&advertiserid=auto_express_uk&bannerid=mpu_1#showroom/new_500/explore), select 'interior', then 'entertainment'.

Is that a Windoze key on the steering wheel??? :nerd

The horror...

DimPrawn
26th November 2007, 16:15
Italian reliability mixed with Microsoft quality.

Sounds a good un.

Bagpuss
26th November 2007, 16:20
Here's the real car of the Year

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/211252/nissan_gtr.html

sasguru
26th November 2007, 16:24
Here's the real car of the Year

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/211252/nissan_gtr.html

Ugh! What an ugly lump of metal.

Bagpuss
26th November 2007, 16:25
A 60k supercar, faster than a 911 turbo around the Nurburgring. Monumental

sasguru
26th November 2007, 16:27
A 60k supercar, faster than a 911 turbo around the Nurburgring. Monumental

If you double your life savings you could buy one. :laugh

Bagpuss
26th November 2007, 16:30
If you double your life savings you could buy one. :laugh




Yes, of course
or I could buy one for 37k in the states:devil
http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/3461
37k!!!

PS

SASguru Bingo

Monetary insult I

miffy
26th November 2007, 16:31
A 60k supercar, faster than a 911 turbo around the Nurburgring. Monumental

It is a great car baggy, I wouldn't turn my nose up if someone gave one to me and it looks great (it's not everyones cup of tea obviously!).

I just couldn't justify that kind of spend on what I still see as a datsun.

I wonder if it came from the same factory as the 120Y :D

sasguru
26th November 2007, 16:31
Yes, of course
or I could buy one for 37k in the states:devil
http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/3461
37k!!!

PS

SASguru Bingo

Monetary insult I

:spel (lack of) investment insult

sasguru
26th November 2007, 16:32
BTW Shocking if its 37K in the states. Rip-off Britain writ large.

realityhack
26th November 2007, 16:33
Here's the real car of the Year

What a bunch of metrosexuals with your shopping cars and your windoze keys on the steering wheel... I think you mean something like this (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/greatest_drives/210028/lotus_2eleven.html). :rolleyes:

miffy
26th November 2007, 16:36
What a bunch of metrosexuals with your shopping cars and your windoze keys on the steering wheel... I think you mean something like this (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/greatest_drives/210028/lotus_2eleven.html). :rolleyes:

Damb, I thought lotus went bust years ago!

I must have dreamt it... :happy

DimPrawn
26th November 2007, 16:38
BTW Shocking if its 37K in the states. Rip-off Britain writ large.

The Audi R8 is about £80K in the UK and $100K in the USA.

But we get New Labour, cheap fuel and cheap housing to make up for it. :laugh

realityhack
26th November 2007, 16:40
Damb, I thought lotus went bust years ago!

I must have dreamt it... :happy
:smile I believe GM/Vauxhall bought them - although I could have just made that up.

That's the kind of thing I mean though - a no-nonsense drivers' car, none of this ESP ABS USP USB nonsense with an optional 'fragrance filter', FFS.

Bagpuss
26th November 2007, 16:45
It is a great car baggy, I wouldn't turn my nose up if someone gave one to me and it looks great (it's not everyones cup of tea obviously!).

I just couldn't justify that kind of spend on what I still see as a datsun.

I wonder if it came from the same factory as the 120Y :D

Don't confuse the cars the Japs are building now with the cars of the 70s, they are the best built mid range cars. Anyway, what does the badge mean? They are giving you a taste of a >100k car for a fraction of the price. If it had a VW badge would you consider it, even if it were less reliable?



(if only it were the same price as the states)

miffy
26th November 2007, 16:47
:smile I believe GM/Vauxhall bought them - although I could have just made that up.

That's the kind of thing I mean though - a no-nonsense drivers' car, none of this ESP ABS USP USB nonsense with an optional 'fragrance filter', FFS.

It might well be true! I know they put together the VX220's in their shed.

I know exactly what you mean though. I didn't think anyone made cars without all those gadgets/aids/safety carp on anymore.

It's the playstation generation now. Look forward to more "ooosby" ports in your dash & centre console! :D

Bagpuss
26th November 2007, 16:47
:smile I believe GM/Vauxhall bought them - although I could have just made that up.



Proton bought Lotus

Francko
26th November 2007, 16:47
Italian reliability

Say it loud man, Fiat now makes good quality cars and it fully recovered from the crisis making a good share of profit nowadays, unlike Rover.

realityhack
26th November 2007, 16:48
I can picture it now...

'I'd like a car, please'
'Would that be the latest urbane hatchback, or the more va va voomy saloon, sir?'
'What? What cars do you sell here?'
'Oh sir, you see, it's more of a lifestyle choice we sell here.'
'Right'
'So, which optional extras would you like, the iPod dock, B&O speakers, a non-static carpet, seats that 'hug' you, a multimedia system, a pez dispenser, climate-control?'
'Er, no - I have those kinds of things in my lounge. Do you have any proper cars here then or what?'
'Well, if it's basic you want sir, we have this Fiat 500...'
'I'd rather dive into a tank of sea-urchins that be seen dead in that'
'Erm, well... what about an optional dashboard vase?'

sasguru
26th November 2007, 16:48
Real men drive one of these - but only when they cant carry the shopping on a bike.

http://www.toyota.co.uk/cgi-bin/toyota/bv/frame_start.jsp?id=MSR_AYGO

Bagpuss
26th November 2007, 16:50
Real men aren't influenced by subliminal messaging on T4:talk:

sasguru
26th November 2007, 16:52
Real men aren't influenced by subliminal messaging on T4:talk:

hey I didn't choose it...
What's T4 anyway?

miffy
26th November 2007, 16:54
If it had a VW badge would you consider it, even if it were less reliable?

If it had a german badge on it (and came with the associated better quality interior trim than those lego switches), yep I'd buy one!

One of my friends has a fully spec'd up 350Z and thats a nice car I have to say. The factory fit sound system is the best I've ever heard.

But, if it was on sale here for a retail price of 37K though, I would have to seriously think about that...

miffy
26th November 2007, 16:56
I can picture it now... So, which optional extras would you like, the iPod dock, B&O speakers, a non-static carpet, seats that 'hug' you, a multimedia system, a pez dispenser, climate-control?'

I was thinking B&Q speakers in the fiat not B&O. :tongue

DimPrawn
26th November 2007, 16:58
:smile I believe GM/Vauxhall bought them - although I could have just made that up.

That's the kind of thing I mean though - a no-nonsense drivers' car, none of this ESP ABS USP USB nonsense with an optional 'fragrance filter', FFS.

If you want a basic, low mileage car, this has to be a contender. Cheap too.

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/FORD+PREFECT/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146,N-4294964362-4294967194/advert.action?R=200731292591477&distance=61&channel=CARS&make=&model=&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=

Bagpuss
26th November 2007, 16:59
hey I didn't choose it...
What's T4 anyway?

Toyota's sponsorship credits run at the beginning and end of advertising breaks during T4-branded programming.

The car-maker, which uses the T4 sponsorship to promote its youth-focused Aygo

sasguru
26th November 2007, 17:06
Toyota's sponsorship credits run at the beginning and end of advertising breaks during T4-branded programming.

The car-maker, which uses the T4 sponsorship to promote its youth-focused Aygo

Aye I'm young at heart :tongue

Apache
26th November 2007, 17:11
I had a Fiat 500 the first time around - I'm 6'5 and my head bulged through the soft top - absolutely brilliant fun though - unless you were going up hill, then you had to get a book out to pass the time.

I used to keep a can of petrol in the boot, which is also where the battery was - can you see it coming? I only had the car two weeks before it burst into flames - I kept the melted ignition key as a memento though.

I'm going to test drive one just for old time's sake - but I'll wear kevlar and take a fire extinguisher this time.