Are Pm's needed (loaded question I know)

[badger7579]

Any PM's out there finding the market a little dry at the moment? I know its not the best time of year but I'm struggling to find anything. Oly had 2 interviews int he last few months...

[51st State]

Yes - they play a vital role in project delivery!

Market has been a little dry over Dec/Jan but seems to be picking up now around these parts (West Yorks).

[badger7579]

Well I'm looking M4, west London or South East...

[XLMonkey]

absolutely. The only thing this world needs more than project managers, is lawyers. Lots and lots of lawyers. Oh yes.

[bogeyman]

A good friend (mgt. consultant) and myself have been mulling over an idea to write a book entitled: The Organic Project - or something similar.

Without giving too much away, the premise is that PMs are basically useless bottlenecks who, instead of taking the load off the implementors of any task, simply burden them with crap and line-reporting overheads.

Bee hives don't have 'project manager' bees.

[oracleslave]

A good friend (Mgt Consultant) and myself have been mulling over an idea to write a book entitled: The Organic Project - or something similar.

Without giving too much away, the premise is that PMs are basically useless bottlenecks who, instead of taking the load off the implementors of any task, simply burden them with crap and line-reporting overheads.

Bee hives don't have project manager bees.

It's a poor idea that won't wash and has been pathetically presented. I just don't think I could work with you and so for those reasons I'm out.

[bogeyman]

It's a poor idea that won't wash and has been pathetically presented. I just don't think I could work with you and so for those reasons I'm out.

You're not that sour old bitch Deborah Meaden are you?

[Francko]

A good friend (mgt. consultant) and myself have been mulling over an idea to write a book entitled: The Organic Project - or something similar.

Without giving too much away, the premise is that PMs are basically useless bottlenecks who, instead of taking the load off the implementors of any task, simply burden them with crap and line-reporting overheads.

Bee hives don't have 'project manager' bees.

That sounds like a good idea. Please write a status report by wednesday and utilise the gantt chart to write down the estimation times to be completed. And one more thing? Why are you so late already? Can't you see it from my chart? You are slow. If you were faster I could give you 2% of my bonus instead of the usual 1%. So now that I have motivated you, please keep up the excellent work. I am off to the status meeting with more senior managers. Bye.

[Xenophon]

A good friend (Mgt Consultant) and myself have been mulling over an idea to write a book entitled: The Organic Project - or something similar.

Without giving too much away, the premise is that PMs are basically useless bottlenecks who, instead of taking the load off the implementors of any task, simply burden them with crap and line-reporting overheads.

Bee hives don't have project manager bees.

Ah, if only running a project was like making honey. Or maybe a better statement is if only people were like bees. If everyone just knew what they were doing and did it, then I agree there is no need for PMs.

Luckily for me, people are not like bees.

[beaker]

A good friend (mgt. consultant) and myself have been mulling over an idea to write a book entitled: The Organic Project - or something similar.

Without giving too much away, the premise is that PMs are basically useless bottlenecks who, instead of taking the load off the implementors of any task, simply burden them with crap and line-reporting overheads.

Bee hives don't have 'project manager' bees.

Good PMs reduce the amount of crap implementors have to deal with.

Bees don't work to budgets and schedules or post on CUK all day.

I am a PM and I do get sick of having to push people and get updates all the time but clients have expectations and my main job is managing them.

Anyway, enough from me...