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eliquant
2nd April 2008, 21:16
That Shaiza asian girl from the Apprentice ..

she lost 1 client's shirt and then got fined 50 quid for it .. ok its bad...
but they seemed to have loads of washing to do, surely 1 shirt ...

the team manager was clueless at pricing laundry ... I mean .. do these laides ever wash their own knickers ? or get their stuff dry cleaned ?

sasguru
2nd April 2008, 21:19
That Shaiza asian girl from the Apprentice ..

she lost 1 client's shirt and then got fined 50 quid for it .. ok its bad...
but they seemed to have loads of washing to do, surely 1 shirt ...

the team manager was clueless at pricing laundry ... I mean .. do these laides ever wash their own knickers ? or get their stuff dry cleaned ?

Think the Project Manager was at fault, not the other one...

SandyDown
2nd April 2008, 21:23
Do you think its cuz she is black? :laugh

TheFaQQer
2nd April 2008, 21:37
The project manager should have gone, no doubt. But Shazia didn't react quick enough to being shafted in the board room to be able to defend herself.

She was accused of lying, but never really responded with the simple "when? what did I say?" because she couldn't get a word in.

Blokes did well, though.

sasguru
2nd April 2008, 21:42
The project manager should have gone, no doubt. But Shazia didn't react quick enough to being shafted in the board room to be able to defend herself.

She was accused of lying, but never really responded with the simple "when? what did I say?" because she couldn't get a word in.

Blokes did well, though.

Yeah that Raef is a clever one. He uses the sasguru theory of management - plan in advance (which is clearly what he did), and everything goes well. :smokin

sasguru
2nd April 2008, 21:45
Do you think its cuz she is black? :laugh

Probably. But if she's weak she would not be good for his business, eh?

TheFaQQer
2nd April 2008, 21:46
Yeah that Raef is a clever one. He uses the sasguru theory of management - plan in advance (which is clearly what he did), and everything goes well. :smokin

He's a smarmy f*cker who's going to get fired when they get down to the last 4 or 5.

He was rubbish last week (and got away since they can only fire one person per week), but really did well this week. I've got no feeling on who will win it yet, but Raef won't win.

TheFaQQer
2nd April 2008, 21:47
Probably. But if she's weak she would not be good for his business, eh?

I don't really think that any candidates from any of the series so far would really be regarded as good for his business!

I still can't understand why people want to work for Srallan.

Peoplesoft bloke
2nd April 2008, 21:49
...... plan in advance ..... :smokin

Surely that's a tautology?

sasguru
2nd April 2008, 21:51
I don't really think that any candidates from any of the series so far would really be regarded as good for his business!

I still can't understand why people want to work for Srallan.

They don't. Most of them want to be in the meedjia, innit?

shoes
2nd April 2008, 22:00
I don't really think that any candidates from any of the series so far would really be regarded as good for his business!

He isn't recruiting for someone to work for him, he is making a tv show. This is why the two women who are likely to remain at eachothers throats for a few more shows were not 'fired'. It makes better tv to keep them in. Also the captain of the guys team is a stereotype and so makes good tv. He will be there for a few shows yet as well.

poser
2nd April 2008, 22:08
guys: sterotypes most of them especially the recruitment agent.
girls: mostly useless

Sir Alan: smarter than them all put together.

MrMark
2nd April 2008, 22:16
I'm hoping that in the last episode, when Sir Alan does his "YOU'RE HIRED" routine, the lucky guy/gurl turns round and says "No, thank you. I can earn a lot more at XXXXX and learn more too".

sasguru
2nd April 2008, 22:29
I can earn a lot more at XXXXX and learn more too".

Yes! and post about in CUK without any hassle!

Board Game Geek
3rd April 2008, 03:30
I did catch a glimpse of this television program tonight and was quite shocked.

It was clear to me that the Project Manager was completely useless right from the start with her 1hr+ meeting on how they were going to achieve their goals, blah blah blah.

Then during the show, she seemed to lock her sights on Lucinda as the l'enfant terrible and continue to victimise her right up to the end.

I'd have sacked the Project Manager, who clearly was antagonisitic and desperately trying to cover up her mistakes by drawing attention to the other 2 ladies.

However, as Mrs BGG and I surmised, the only reason to keep the PM and Lucinda on was that the TV show are expecting more sparks to fly in later episodes.

This is why, excepting tonight, I don't watch programs like The Apprentice, Big Brother, I'm a Celebrity....

They are the worst possible form of entertainment : Reality TV based around the suffering and conflict of others, served up to titillate people who find other's suffering an enjoyable pasttime.

It's all conflict, back-biting and deviousness. Values we are taught to loathe and despise. So why are these values glamourised ?

I'd say it's the same as watching rooster fighting, badger baiting, etc.

Can't they do a "nice" version of "The Apprentice" ?

eliquant
3rd April 2008, 07:19
Board Game Geek, I bet you've had some harsh words exchanged in your guild when you wiped on a boss in World of Warcraft.

The Apprentice is just a reflection of life.

Tensai
3rd April 2008, 07:59
I lump this programme in with Dragons' Den under the "too facile for words" category. I realise it's just TV opera, but I get really annoyed when they maintain the pretence that the best people/business ideas got through...

I guess I'm in essence annoyed that they undoubtedly turn down much better candidates/business proposals in the auditions in favour of some of the freaks that actually assail our screens.

[Note : it's amazing how grumpy lack of sleep is making me :tantrum:]

lilelvis2000
3rd April 2008, 08:56
She cleaned up nicely on the Your're Fired on BBC2.

Must say I was mystified why she got fired - she did show the other numpties her labelling system. It was stupid to head back to house to get the irons - but then obviously the Project Manager should have stopped it.

There really were some cruel things said in the car footage. yowza! And this is the best sales person in europe...who babbled on about supplier cost etc.. and then felt charging a hotel £5 for each item was okay! ha ha ha

The project man. really should have gone. But then the entertainment values down the line would be gone. And somehow I think that influences Allen's decisions these days...

Sausage Surprise
3rd April 2008, 09:05
He's a smarmy f*cker who's going to get fired when they get down to the last 4 or 5.

He was rubbish last week (and got away since they can only fire one person per week), but really did well this week. I've got no feeling on who will win it yet, but Raef won't win.

Not true. Sugar fired 2 in one week last series because he thought they were both rubbish.

TheFaQQer
3rd April 2008, 09:06
Can't they do a "nice" version of "The Apprentice" ?

When Martha Stewart did the American one, she ended the first episode by saying "it's not that you failed, you just didn't succeed enough".

People don't want that from the programme, though - they want some obnoxious bloke shouting "You're FIRED!!!" at someone. Sralan is no Donald, though - why has the BBC stopped showing the American series??

TheFaQQer
3rd April 2008, 09:08
Not true. Sugar fired 2 in one week last series because he thought they were both rubbish.

He's not going to do that this early in the series though!

Donald Trump ruled one week that they were so bad that neither team won, but still only fired one contestant.

chef
3rd April 2008, 09:08
she lost 1 client's shirt and then got fined 50 quid for it ..

i know, what a cheek, my shirts are worth far more than that, got off lightly i reckon

Dow Jones
3rd April 2008, 09:16
Was it for 1 or 2 shirts though? Somehow I think Sugar wouldn't spend more than £ 25 for one.

Peoplesoft bloke
3rd April 2008, 09:19
This is why, excepting tonight, I don't watch programs like The Apprentice, Big Brother, I'm a Celebrity....

They are the worst possible form of entertainment : Reality TV based around the suffering and conflict of others, served up to titillate people who find other's suffering an enjoyable pasttime.

It's all conflict, back-biting and deviousness. Values we are taught to loathe and despise. So why are these values glamourised ?

I'd say it's the same as watching rooster fighting, badger baiting, etc.

Can't they do a "nice" version of "The Apprentice" ?

I totally agree - and I don't watch it at all (the actual prog). However I can't resist an occasional watch of the "you're fired" follow up, as it's nicer, you don't have to sit through all the dross of the actual prog, and you get a summary of what happened. It is interesting to see people who, for example think they are "the best saleswoman in Europe" parading themselves on telly.

ratewhore
3rd April 2008, 09:44
I thought the ex-squaddie (Simon) did well, but I'm not sure he'll cut the mustard when it comes down to leading the team.

Other than that, that short fella who is obviously in love with Raef and dances like a girl should be shot in the head and removed from the program.

And, oh yeah, the PM should have gone...

:cool2:

Dow Jones
3rd April 2008, 09:48
This is the guy that the bookies have made 'the favourite'. Michael (his name) was at 5/1, followed by Raef at 6/1.

ratewhore
3rd April 2008, 09:50
This is the guy that the bookies have made 'the favourite'. Michael (his name) was at 5/1, followed by Raef at 6/1.

Might put money on that. The bloke is a sheep. No way he'll win...