Newsnight grrrrr

**NickFitz** · 11 June 2008, 01:33

Tell you what Lucy, you opt out.

Then be involved, through no fault of your own, in a serious road traffic accident and be taken to hospital.

Then die in a corridor because you've opted out of the NHS and you can't prove that you can pay for the treatment you need to save your life.

It happens a lot more in the States than it does here, and you're welcome to it.

(Which one is the "I spit on your grave" smiley?

)

**BrilloPad** · 11 June 2008, 06:05

What concerns me is how much of that money goes to management consultants - McKinsey, Accenture etc.

**dinker** · 11 June 2008, 07:24

Unlimited "free" healthcare is counter-darwinian. All the thick chavs who should die off are provided with healthcare by the intelligent half of the population.

**stackpole** · 11 June 2008, 08:27

Originally posted by NickFitz View Post

Tell you what Lucy, you opt out.

Then be involved, through no fault of your own, in a serious road traffic accident and be taken to hospital.

Then die in a corridor because you've opted out of the NHS and you can't prove that you can pay for the treatment you need to save your life.

It happens a lot more in the States than it does here, and you're welcome to it.

(Which one is the "I spit on your grave" smiley?

)

WHOOOSH!

**BoredBloke** · 11 June 2008, 09:18

Originally posted by NickFitz View Post

Tell you what Lucy, you opt out.

Then be involved, through no fault of your own, in a serious road traffic accident and be taken to hospital.

Then die in a corridor because you've opted out of the NHS and you can't prove that you can pay for the treatment you need to save your life.

It happens a lot more in the States than it does here, and you're welcome to it.

(Which one is the "I spit on your grave" smiley?

)

I think the point is how it is described as being free. It isn't it is actually pretty expensive. So for that expense it should be better than it is. While I have no problem with a 'free' NHS, I don't like how it is

1 - described as being free when my taxes pay for it
2 - is totally free to whoever comes here either ill or gets ill once they are here.

If I went to pretty much any nation on earth I couldn't expect to get the same health care 100% free like people hitting the UK do.

**TimberWolf** · 11 June 2008, 09:20

Originally posted by Lucy View Post

(I'm not going to watch it when Paxman isn't on anymore that Scottish woman is a fliping socialist)

Paxman is going?

**sasguru** · 11 June 2008, 09:22

Originally posted by NickFitz View Post

Tell you what Lucy, you opt out.

Then be involved, through no fault of your own, in a serious road traffic accident and be taken to hospital.

Then die in a corridor because you've opted out of the NHS and you can't prove that you can pay for the treatment you need to save your life.

It happens a lot more in the States than it does here, and you're welcome to it.

(Which one is the "I spit on your grave" smiley?

)

That's not very "Care in the Community" aware of you, is it?

**Churchill** · 11 June 2008, 09:23

The NHS is not "FREE".

It is "Free at the point of need."

HTH.

**Bagpuss** · 11 June 2008, 09:24

The problem with the NHS is the standard of care, it can range from poor to excellent depending on postcode.

On the whole it's an excellent service, but could be greatly improved and not by throwing money at it. This seems to be conservative policy, so they get my vote on that one.

Private healthcare, yes excellent, but who trains the doctors/surgeons the good old NHS. So most private care in this country has also been subsidised by the NHS.

No American system in this country thanks.

Newsnight grrrrr