I don't quite understand

**milanbenes** · 10 August 2005, 07:13

no you're correct, here on the mainland you can drink until the early hours or longer and have a good time not see any trouble

as long as they stay in the UK who cares ?

Milan.

**The Lone Gunman** · 10 August 2005, 07:35

It is scare mongoring.

As we all know, relaxed hours on the mainland leads to less alcohol related problems, I expect it will go the same way in the UK but it will take some time for the Brits to change their habits. In the mean time I expect there will be a sharp increase in drunkenness and associated behaviour.
Remember that Brits are used to binge drinking, legally and culturally we are forced into it. We only have a few hours which we can spend in the pub, so we tend to spend that time shifting as much drink as we can. This will continue untill the Brits realise that there is no need to rush as they can have another pint whenever they like.
These scare mongors dont seem to realise that we will still only have the X number of pounds to spend on drink in a week, if we spend it all on a big night out as per normal then we will be well skint by the end of the night, or going home earlier than those who have learned to moderate their habits.

**tim123** · 10 August 2005, 07:49

Originally posted by The Lone Gunman

It is scare mongoring.

As we all know, relaxed hours on the mainland leads to less alcohol related problems,

Well my million quid says otherwise.

IMHO Parental discipline (at a younger age) leads to less alcohol related problems at the later age. Parental discipline in the UK has for a long time been non-existent in many families, but is still the norm in most European countries.

This idea that there is a causal effect between opening hours and violence is a complete nonsense. The violence is cause by people walking around with an "I can do what I like and sod the rest of you" attitude. An attitude that is all too common in the UK and virtually non existant elsewhere in Europe.

Tim

**SupremeSpod** · 10 August 2005, 07:53

The violence is cause by people walking around with an "I can do what I like and sod the rest of you" attitude. An attitude that is all too common in the UK and virtually non existant elsewhere in Europe.

Ah, but you forget "ze Germans" and "the Dutch" youth are heading in much the same direction!

**The Lone Gunman** · 10 August 2005, 08:14

Originally posted by tim123

Well my million quid says otherwise.

IMHO Parental discipline (at a younger age) leads to less alcohol related problems at the later age. Parental discipline in the UK has for a long time been non-existent in many families, but is still the norm in most European countries.

This idea that there is a causal effect between opening hours and violence is a complete nonsense. The violence is cause by people walking around with an "I can do what I like and sod the rest of you" attitude. An attitude that is all too common in the UK and virtually non existant elsewhere in Europe.

Tim

I agree with that, but most of them are restrained enough not to be violent on a day to day basis, rude and aggressive but not violent, but when you add alcohol to excess.....
Those people will still be just as drunk without extra hours, the extra hours may do us all a favour by letting them drink to oblivion or even drink themselves to death.

**SupremeSpod** · 10 August 2005, 08:37

Those people will still be just as drunk without extra hours, the extra hours may do us all a favour by letting them drink to oblivion or even drink themselves to death.

It's happening already, the number of under 30 year olds with Liver Disease is escalating!

**Dundeegeorge** · 10 August 2005, 08:39

Tsk tsk tsk I don't know why all the hand-wringing

It's not difficult to solve really.
If people can't behave within society then remove them from society.

**BoredBloke** · 10 August 2005, 08:43

When is the 24 hour drinking thing supposed to go live?

Personaly I don't think the binge drinking thing has got any worse than when I first started going out about 20 years ago. The difference is that now there are a huge number of CCTV cameras able to capture pictures of tanked up kids. In the mid 80's these cameras were not as common place. As a result the images are now much more readily available.

**SupremeSpod** · 10 August 2005, 08:44

Originally posted by Dundeegeorge

It's not difficult to solve really.
If people can't behave within society then remove them from society.

Ah, a use for the soon-to-be-patented SupremeSpod "Chav Removal by means of Explosive Compounds and Large Field" method!

I don't quite understand