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The Lone Gunman
16th July 2008, 13:58
Just to let you know I am back on deck and working a new contract in Southern Germany.
That bench was starting to feel rather permanent.

Sockpuppet
16th July 2008, 13:58
:yay:

snaw
16th July 2008, 14:03
Just to let you know I am back on deck and working a new contract in Southern Germany.
That bench was starting to feel rather permanent.

Hope you like eating pig bits.

darmstadt
16th July 2008, 14:05
Just to let you know I am back on deck and working a new contract in Southern Germany.
That bench was starting to feel rather permanent.

Whereabouts in Southern Germany, I'm in that area too, well maybe more southwesterly...?

oracleslave
16th July 2008, 14:09
Just to let you know I am back on deck and working a new contract in Southern Germany.
That bench was starting to feel rather permanent.

Congrats on the new gig. :banana:

milanbenes
16th July 2008, 14:12
LG,

congratulations

I might be heading that way in September, have to give a yes or no by the 25th July.

are you by any chance at a datacenter in a town beginning with B ?

Milan.

NickFitz
16th July 2008, 14:17
Just to let you know I am back on deck and working a new contract in Southern Germany.
That bench was starting to feel rather permanent.

:banana:

Enjoy the beer and sausages :tongue

Xenophon
16th July 2008, 14:19
Grats TLG!

:banana:

Churchill
16th July 2008, 14:24
Grats TLG!

:banana:

WTEGS!!!

The Lone Gunman
16th July 2008, 14:25
I am in Friedrichshafen. I may not be able to post much once they have set up my user account.
I am working for EADS on Eurocopter. If I said anymore I would have to kill you.

Yes Snaw, it is all pig and potatoes round here but I like it.

TimberWolf
16th July 2008, 14:29
Just to let you know I am back on deck and working a new contract in Southern Germany.

Sprechen ze Deutsch?

The Lone Gunman
16th July 2008, 14:34
Sprechen ze Deutsch? :spel sie.
Enough

milanbenes
16th July 2008, 14:36
ok LG, I'll be somewhere else

congratulations and all the best

Milan.

sasguru
16th July 2008, 14:36
:spel sie.
Enough

Bist du eine spiesser mit einem schnorbat?

ThomasSoerensen
16th July 2008, 14:51
congrats on the gig

Churchill
16th July 2008, 14:55
I am in Friedrichshafen. I may not be able to post much once they have set up my user account.
I am working for EADS on Eurocopter. If I said anymore I would have to kill you.

Yes Snaw, it is all pig and potatoes round here but I like it.

Tiger, tiger burning bright?

The Lone Gunman
16th July 2008, 15:02
:wink
Tiger, tiger burning bright?

expat
16th July 2008, 15:40
:spel sie.
EnoughSie

Xenophon
16th July 2008, 16:10
I am working for EADS on Eurocopter.

Nice chopper, TLG.

alreadypacked
16th July 2008, 16:12
Congrats TLG

How long is the contract for?

The Lone Gunman
16th July 2008, 19:17
I am here to end of November, possibly longer. There is a lot of work coming up

Thanks for the best wishes guys, I am feeling the love.

Bagpuss
16th July 2008, 19:39
Just to let you know I am back on deck and working a new contract in Southern Germany.
That bench was starting to feel rather permanent.

well done old boy wot wot

thunderlizard
16th July 2008, 20:17
but which one are you?

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~culttv/aufgang2.jpg

Olly
16th July 2008, 20:28
Munich to be precise...it's smashing here but hasn't stopped raining the last two weeks!
Wish I could speak a bit of German though and that the tax system here wasn't so harsh!

Paddy
16th July 2008, 20:32
Vell done. Hav die pfun im Kalinka Club.

The Lone Gunman
17th July 2008, 05:15
Munich to be precise...it's smashing here but hasn't stopped raining the last two weeks!
Wish I could speak a bit of German though and that the tax system here wasn't so harsh!
I will be in Ottobrunn this weekend visiting old friends.
What is your pay set up? I hope you are using a management company offshore. PM me if you dont want a public discussion.

darmstadt
17th July 2008, 06:58
are you by any chance at a datacenter in a town beginning with B ?

Milan.

I am...:wink

BlasterBates
17th July 2008, 09:10
Munich to be precise...it's smashing here but hasn't stopped raining the last two weeks!
Wish I could speak a bit of German though and that the tax system here wasn't so harsh!


Munich.....that isn't German, its Bavarian.

Love the beer down there though nothing like a huge cold Bavarian beer.

Get down to the lakes when the weather warms up.

When you say tax regime harsh, make sure you're not an employee, you really need to be Freiberufler, I've noticed Brits often end up as "employees". All German contractors without exception are Freiberufler, though some sometimes run a GmbH.

TimberWolf
17th July 2008, 09:13
Just don't mention ze war.

darmstadt
17th July 2008, 09:41
When you say tax regime harsh, make sure you're not an employee, you really need to be Freiberufler, I've noticed Brits often end up as "employees". All German contractors without exception are Freiberufler, though some sometimes run a GmbH.

Not quite, an applications programmer or tester will more than likely be Selbständig and will have to pay Gewerbesteuer whereas a systems programmer is considered to be like an engineer and so doesn't.

BlasterBates
17th July 2008, 10:00
Not quite, an applications programmer or tester will more than likely be Selbständig and will have to pay Gewerbesteuer whereas a systems programmer is considered to be like an engineer and so doesn't.

Yes that is true, though shouldn't be a problem provided you have a degree, or possibly some confirmation from your client, so is normally avoidable. The common mistake is that some German contractors actually register themselves as a "Gewerbe" which is then difficult to refute.

But.. the English mistake is to work for an agency that actually employs you, and so you pay social insurance, which is astronomical. Now it is true that companies such as Siemens may demand this, but firstly the contract between the agency and the contractor is none of their business and secondly if the purchasing dept is playing hardball German companies may just employ you on a 400 EUR basis i.e. no Social Insurance or very little just to say you're an employee. Again this avoidable.

NotAllThere
17th July 2008, 10:43
...Wish I could speak a bit of German though ...

The only German you need is:Noch ein gross Bier, bitte.

I got by on that for 20 years.

tim123
17th July 2008, 22:27
The only German you need is:Noch ein gross Bier, bitte.

I got by on that for 20 years.


How did you manage to get the first one?

tim

darmstadt
18th July 2008, 05:39
How did you manage to get the first one?

tim

In Dusseldorf there's usually a bloke walking around the pub with a number of beers and as soon as you sit down, one is plonked in front of you, no questions asked. In fact you don't even need to ask for the next one as they keep an eye on you and as soon as you have finished the first, the second one is already there. Caused some problems when I gave a training course there. I'd booked the hotel and lunch was served in a brewery across the road. Naturally the beer was plonked down and everyone was so shocked they drank it. When the second came, I was the only person to accept which was embarrasing although even more embarrasing were the requests from the attendees, such as diet coke and Sprite. The waiter gave them a filthy look and then when the obligatory Schnapps was offered after lunch only a couple of us took him up.

The Lone Gunman
18th July 2008, 06:25
A friend of mine has a favourite story which he says is made up from hearing people say stupid stuff so.....

We went to Germany on holiday I think the place was called Leerfahrt as that is what it said on all the buses, but nobody seems to use them. We stayed in the hotel Zimmer Frei which was in Einbahnstrasse. The beer was lovely I think it was called Noch Ein beer.

expat
18th July 2008, 13:12
A friend of mine has a favourite story which he says is made up from hearing people say stupid stuff so.....

We went to Germany on holiday I think the place was called Leerfahrt as that is what it said on all the buses, but nobody seems to use them. We stayed in the hotel Zimmer Frei which was in Einbahnstrasse. The beer was lovely I think it was called Noch Ein beer.That Ausfahrt must be some size of town, the last 10 exits have all been for it.

Olly
20th July 2008, 10:57
What is your pay set up? I hope you are using a management company offshore. PM me if you dont want a public discussion.

Nothing special at the moment, just normal UK Ltd contracted to the agency...going to stay less than 183 days so it's fine other than a small question mark over where control of my Ltd is exerted from although plan to fix that by making my mum director.

I do want to stay in Germany though and admit I have no idea of the best way to do this tax wise.

BlasterBates
23rd July 2008, 17:11
Yup me thinks the same too, we need to find out the latest on paying Sozialversicherung, that's the killer. I might go and see my local Accountant to found out the best way to avoid it. One way is to employ someone, on a minimum salary.