Staff paid below minimum wage

**Peoplesoft bloke** · 25 July 2008, 08:19

Well that explains (at least in part) why it is such a miserable experience dining there. It's like Waggamas - love the food hate the rest of the experience.

**Moscow Mule** · 25 July 2008, 08:21

Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View Post

Well that explains (at least in part) why it is such a miserable experience dining there. It's like Waggamas - love the food hate the rest of the experience.

The one in Twickenham is nice.

**Peoplesoft bloke** · 25 July 2008, 08:29

Originally posted by Moscow Mule View Post

The one in Twickenham is nice.

I've been to the ones in
Bath
Ipswich
Portsmouth
Guildford
Nottingham
and the one near Peterborough

and they were all pleasant places with reasonable food and miserable surly and slow staff.

BTW - the reason I go back is to be sociable - I don't suggest it.

**Francko** · 25 July 2008, 08:50

Originally posted by Cyberman View Post

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7524021.stm

This is scandalous and should be rectified immediately !!

They are ethical towards the fishes. They didn't specify that they are ethical towards human beings too.

**sasguru** · 25 July 2008, 09:05

Originally posted by Cyberman View Post

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7524021.stm

This is scandalous and should be rectified immediately !!

Why? It's in the best traditions of Thatcherite capitalism.

**Moscow Mule** · 25 July 2008, 09:09

Originally posted by sasguru View Post

Why? It's in the best traditions of Thatcherite capitalism.

You may have just answered your own question there...

**BoredBloke** · 25 July 2008, 10:04

This is common in the US where giving tips actually drives good service. In a bar I used to go to one of the girls working there told me that they get $2 per hour which is bad when it's a quiet night but on a Saturday she can easily make more than $300. It is having so much of their wage based on tips which meant they offered a good service. None of the standing at the end of the bar chatting to their mates when customers were waiting. They would ask if you wanted a beer when you got towards the bottom of the glass. This model doesn't work well in the UK because the people who do the job would have to work for their tips - plus we don't tip as much as the yanks.

**Peoplesoft bloke** · 25 July 2008, 10:07

Originally posted by TonyEnglish View Post

This is common in the US where giving tips actually drives good service. In a bar I used to go to one of the girls working there told me that they get $2 per hour which is bad when it's a quiet night but on a Saturday she can easily make more than $300. It is having so much of their wage based on tips which meant they offered a good service. None of the standing at the end of the bar chatting to their mates when customers were waiting. They would ask if you wanted a beer when you got towards the bottom of the glass. This model doesn't work well in the UK because the people who do the job would have to work for their tips - plus we don't tip as much as the yanks.

Agreed - I doubt there's much prospect of making a good wage here even by trying hard - and in this case, the restaurant is taking all the tips and spreading them between staff to make up the wages, so if you're brilliant and the geezer you work with is a feckless slob, he still gets a share of your tips.

**Cyberman** · 25 July 2008, 11:18

Originally posted by sasguru View Post

Why? It's in the best traditions of Thatcherite capitalism.

You either have a minimum wage or you don't. New Lie have been saying for years that one of their great achievements is the minimum wage. This has been shown to be yet another lie.

There should also be a law that ALL tips for service go to the waiters and waitresses for whom the tips are given. I do not tip for it to go into the coffers of a greedy business.

Staff paid below minimum wage