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    Blairs Britain

    If think this story sums up the place for those living abroad who might be contemplating a return.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4194738.stm

    That a woman was shot dead on their estate as she held a baby elicits little surprise among residents of Wood Dene in London's Peckham.
    It is a particularly nasty attack, they say, but among the condemned flats and dilapidated landings surrounding their homes, crime is never that far away.

    "You see kids with drugs" volunteers one man, while others are scared by the gangs of youths hidden by bad lighting.

    Some are more sanguine: "You get the yobbos. But it's not like you can't walk round without getting mugged."



    'Spray pattern'

    A blue tarpaulin now hides the entrance to the estate's community centre - forensics experts ducking inside to carry out their investigation.

    You ignore everything that's going on, close your door and try to forget it

    Wood Dene resident


    Four held over shooting

    Police were called here at 2000 BST on Saturday, after a christening party was gatecrashed by gunmen, who opened fire before making off with handbags, mobile phones and wine.

    The victim, 33-year-old Zainab Kalokoh, died in hospital. The baby she was holding - who was not her own - was unhurt.

    Denise Brown, who lives in a flat overlooking the community centre, says the thing she finds most shocking is that she was completely unaware of the shooting until she saw it on the news.

    "You ignore everything that's going on, close your door and try to forget it," she says of life in one of the 300-odd Wood dene flats.

    The mother of an eight-year-old girl, she is fed up with the youths who congregate between the blocks and "make noise until 4am" and the general lack of security.

    'Worst time'

    Ms Brown's unease is shared by another woman, who asks not to be named. "This is a bad place to live, it's so unsafe - there are guns and drugs all around," she says.


    Police are searching the centre where Zainab Kalokoh was shot

    "There's not much light at night... the winter is the worst time - there are groups just hanging around."

    Part of the problem, says Vicky Idiegbe, from the Wood Dene Project Community Group, is that the estate is being slowly closed down, so that it can be redeveloped.

    "Many of the flats are becoming derelict, and are now being filled up by squatters and junkies, the lifts don't work, and people are scared to walk around at night," she says.

    'Normal estate'

    Elsewhere in Peckham signs of regeneration are easy to find - with rows of smart houses, new shops and fashionable restaurants - all clues to the money coming into the area.

    These signs of change are largely missing in Wood dene, but there are still residents who say that say people are too quick to jump on the estate's obvious problems.


    Residents complain that some empty flats are used for drugs

    "People make out it's like World War III here, but it's a normal estate like any other in the country," says 52-year-old Kevin Donavan. "I have not really come across any trouble and I have been here since I was a kid."

    His view that demolishing Wood Dene will not end the problems associated with it is shared by John Oldbrook - whose house faces the estate from the other side of the street.

    Pointing down the road, he indicates a couple of flats used by prostitutes and then, turning the other way, towards the scenes of other shootings.

    As with many other inner city areas across the country, Ms Kalokoh's is not the first Peckham has seen and is almost certainly not the last.


    Oh and what's great is that those flats can now be bought for as little as £470,000 due to the recent falls in house prices.
    Last edited by DimPrawn; 29 August 2005, 19:27.

    #2
    It's okay. Blair is about the ban violent porn on the web. That will solve all our social ills.
    Autom...Sprow...Canna...Tik banna...Sandwol...But no sera smee

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      #3
      Originally posted by WageSlave
      It's okay. Blair is about the ban violent porn on the web. That will solve all our social ills.
      Bloody hell, that's another series of 1970s bongo mag burning sessions that need to be organised.

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        #4
        The idea was welcomed by the family of Jane Longhurst, of Hove, murdered by a man addicted to violent net porn.
        Ah, I see, it's another one of these again is it? Presumably the Daily Mail making a fuss and setting Home Office policy? I still subscribe to the view that these tiny handful of people play violent computer games / access violent porn because they are vicious sadists, not that a few people are made vicious sadists by watching violence.

        Then again, maybe I am naiive and the Daily Mail is right.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Lucifer Box
          Bloody hell, that's another series of 1970s bongo mag burning sessions that need to be organised.
          They should also ban that filth queen Delia Smith and all her cronies. Just look at the corrupting filth they peddle. Going on national television, brandishing knives, clubs and all manner of kinky, violent instruments, which they use to slice open the flesh of chickens and pigs. Is it any wonder the kids of today, raised on the XXX antics of Jamie Oliver, are taking to the streets and re-enacting the scenes of blood and horror.

          People, we need to stop this madness before it’s too late. Chairman Blair needs to devise even more legislation to control our television screens, clean up the dinner table (ban knives, forks, rolling pins and cookie cutters) and stop the decline. Laws, that’s what we need: MORE LAWS!!!!
          Autom...Sprow...Canna...Tik banna...Sandwol...But no sera smee

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            #6
            Originally posted by Lucifer Box
            Ah, I see, it's another one of these again is it? Presumably the Daily Mail making a fuss and setting Home Office policy? I still subscribe to the view that these tiny handful of people play violent computer games / access violent porn because they are vicious sadists, not that a few people are made vicious sadists by watching violence.

            Then again, maybe I am naiive and the Daily Mail is right.
            Lucifer, there you go again with your crazy libertarian ideas of personal responsibility.
            Just imagine sweet old granny Smith. She’s trying to view her nephew’s online photo album (he moved to Oz a few years back), but instead she accidentally goes to snuffmovies.com. Viewing such images, even for a few seconds, would be enough to transform her into a violent maniac, hell bent on a cocaine-fuelled spree of rape and torture. Now we have another Richard Ramirez on our hands.
            Autom...Sprow...Canna...Tik banna...Sandwol...But no sera smee

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              #7
              You're right, what can any of us really know of such matters? The government knows best.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Lucifer Box
                You're right, what can any of us really know of such matters? The government knows best.
                We are all Papa Blair's children, and he guides us to the wonderful light.

                Now, I better go home and start erasing that fecking hard drive!
                Autom...Sprow...Canna...Tik banna...Sandwol...But no sera smee

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                  #9
                  Saw it in half and then chuck it off the back of a north sea ferry, halfway to Bergen. It's the only way to be sure.

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                    #10
                    It's the only answer, I'm afraid. My wife has used the PC to view pictures of cats. Sooner or later Blair's bound to make it a retrospectively criminal act.

                    Watch out, Blair's about...you better watch out, 'cos Blair's about

                    Jimmy is walking his young daughter home from Brownies. A policeman stops him.
                    Plod: Excuse me, citizen voter, is this your daughter?
                    Jimmy: Yes, comrade enforcer, it most certainly is.
                    Plod: I am placing you under arrest.
                    Jimmy: Whatever for?
                    Plod: Chairman Blair –praise his name from the rooftops!- has just passed a new retrospective law making it illegal to have sex. Your daughter is evidence of your guilt.
                    Jimmy: But she was conceived and born in Japan!
                    Plod: That doesn’t make a difference. Thanks to our glorious Chairman –praise him!- you must obey British law, regardless of local law.

                    <cue Blair leaping out from behind a tree, wearing a dodgy beard>

                    Blair: Ho ho! Thanks to me, the streets of this country are safer than ever before!
                    Autom...Sprow...Canna...Tik banna...Sandwol...But no sera smee

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