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Spacecadet
29th September 2008, 19:42
Both the BBC (panorama) and channel 4 (dispatches) seem to be showing anti-conservative programmes at the same time!

HeliCraig
29th September 2008, 19:43
Hummm... not surprising really. They are a bunch of devious toads at the best of times.

The sad thing is the others are all the same!!

Bagpuss
29th September 2008, 19:45
Both the BBC (panorama) and channel 4 (dispatches) seem to be showing anti-conservative programmes at the same time!

Is the BBC one really anti Conservative? Looks like a party political broadcast to me

Cyberman
29th September 2008, 20:05
Hummm... not surprising really. They are a bunch of devious toads at the best of times.

The sad thing is the others are all the same!!


I'll go for the one's that can run an economy and keep my taxes down. That definitely excludes the current incumbents. Hopefully the Tories will be left with an economy to run. :laugh

Spacecadet
29th September 2008, 20:05
Is the BBC one really anti Conservative? Looks like a party political broadcast to me

only watched it for a couple of mins
Jeremy Vine is the most irritating **** in current affairs TV
and it looked tedious
watched dispatches instead

HeliCraig
29th September 2008, 20:11
I'll go for the one's that can run an economy and keep my taxes down. That definitely excludes the current incumbents. Hopefully the Tories will be left with an economy to run. :laugh

Hmm yes, the tories, always to be trusted with an economy facing recession. Should I point out that Thatcher increased taxes in 1981 in the midst of a fully blown recession, in order to get inflation down from 18% to 8%; we won't mention the unemployment - or the fact she sold everything off to get herself out of the mess.

Oh yes... where do I put my X to get that shower back in power?

Mind you, as I said, the current lot are not a great deal better! There should be an "abstain" vote which gets rid of the lot!!!

VectraMan
29th September 2008, 20:21
Is the BBC one really anti Conservative? Looks like a party political broadcast to me

I saw the guy running a building firm saying that 40% corporation tax makes it almost impossible for them to make a profit.:confused:

Dave looked confused at that too.

I don't know about anybody else, but as I'd rather see the back of New Labour I don't want to watch anything about The Conservatives in case I find out they're equally useless. I'd rather know nothing about them or their policies and vote for them on the basis of being not Labour.

PAH
29th September 2008, 20:27
I saw the guy running a building firm saying that 40% corporation tax makes it almost impossible for them to make a profit.:confused:



Maybe that's why they're brickies and not accountants. :rolleyes: I suppose he meant income tax, but only greedy fools get clobbered for 40%!

As for who's better, Labour or Conservative, it's like asking who makes the better soup when all they can do is stir the pot.

Bagpuss
29th September 2008, 20:38
Cameron is trying to be all things to all people.
-No we won't reduce benefits
-No we won't cut spending on the NHS

There won't be a massive difference from New Labour if they keep their promises. A little less meddling in peoples lives, a bit more small business friendly. That will be the only 'major' difference

expat
29th September 2008, 20:48
I'll go for the one's that can run an economy and keep my taxes down. That definitely excludes the current incumbents. Hopefully the Tories will be left with an economy to run. :laugh1. Any government that thinks it can actually run an economy is certifiable.
2. There is more to do than run the economy. If I did nothing but make money, my life would be a wasted life (-- Charlie Munger). If the government does nothing but "run" (i.e. not ruin) the economy, and keep your taxes down, then it stands condemned for not doing any of the important things that government is actually for.

Everybody else knows that, and you won't admit it, so why do I bother?

DiscoStu
29th September 2008, 20:50
1. Any government that thinks it can actually run an economy is certifiable.
2. There is more to do than run the economy. If I did nothing but make money, my life would be a wasted life (-- Charlie Munger). If the government does nothing but "run" (i.e. not ruin) the economy, and keep your taxes down, then it stands condemned for not doing any of the important things that government is actually for.

Everybody else knows that, and you won't admit it, so why do I bother?

I'd settle for a government that shrank itself and thought I was better able to spend my own cash than it was...

HeliCraig
29th September 2008, 21:02
I'd settle for a government that shrank itself and thought I was better able to spend my own cash than it was...

WHS.

Cyberman
29th September 2008, 23:17
1. Any government that thinks it can actually run an economy is certifiable.
2. There is more to do than run the economy. If I did nothing but make money, my life would be a wasted life (-- Charlie Munger). If the government does nothing but "run" (i.e. not ruin) the economy, and keep your taxes down, then it stands condemned for not doing any of the important things that government is actually for.

Everybody else knows that, and you won't admit it, so why do I bother?



This is where the Tories are so different to New Lie. New Lie always believe that to improve things you have to spend money. That is simply not true, because with good ideas improvements can be made and money can also be saved at the same time. :rolleyes:

expat
30th September 2008, 06:39
This is where the Tories are so different to New Lie. New Lie always believe that to improve things you have to spend money. That is simply not true, because with good ideas improvements can be made and money can also be saved at the same time. :rolleyes:... and if no improvements are made, what the hell, at least you've saved your money?

PM-Junkie
30th September 2008, 07:20
When I was at school, we ran a mock election and I ran the campaign for the "elect Snoopy" party.

...I've thought for a long time that if I resurrected my campaign and did it for real, we'd win by a landslide.

expat
30th September 2008, 07:48
When I was at school, we ran a mock election and I ran the campaign for the "elect Snoopy" party.

...I've thought for a long time that if I resurrected my campaign and did it for real, we'd win by a landslide.Isn't that what just happened in Austria?

HeliCraig
30th September 2008, 10:14
When I was at school, we ran a mock election and I ran the campaign for the "elect Snoopy" party.

...I've thought for a long time that if I resurrected my campaign and did it for real, we'd win by a landslide.

We had a mock election too - and being a slightly "tooty" grammar school in the heart of ToryShire I was "selected" to run as the NewLieBor man. I made the mistake of using a quote / soundbite twice and was not allowed to forget it. What an utter waste of time.