Same puppet masters, just different puppets

[TimberWolf]

William Hague flew off on Barclays £500,000 Italian jolly as markets crashed.

Some estimates have put the cost of the all-expenses-paid three-day conference at £500,000. The Shadow Foreign Secretary's wife Ffion is an adviser to Barclays. Barclays is one of the banks expected to apply for taxpayer cash under Gordon Brown's £500billion rescue plan after its share price was hammered.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-crashed.html

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[Cyberman]

He is an ADVISOR to Barclays who are a private company, and he is a man who has at least held down a real job in PRIVATE finance.... that cannot be said about many in the current cabinet. I see no problem with this, and it states that he is paying his own way anyway.

It's not quite like teachers swanning off to Spain for a seminar on taxpayer's money while sending schoolkids home, John Prescott taking hospitality from an American ranchier, or Tony Blair taking favours from the wealthy in Tuscany.

[TimberWolf]

He is an ADVISOR to Barclays who are a private company, and he is a man who has at least held down a real job in PRIVATE finance.... that cannot be said about many in the current cabinet. I see no problem with this, and it states that he is paying his own way anyway.

It's not quite like teachers swanning off to Spain for a seminar on taxpayer's money while sending schoolkids home, John Prescott taking hospitality from an American ranchier, or Tony Blair taking favours from the wealthy in Tuscany.

I think they're all at it. Just different politicians animated by the same puppeteers.

[Cyberman]

I think they're all at it. Just different politicians animated by the same puppeteers.

You think, but that is not proof. Show some proof and I may believe it. Like all taxpayers, I want value for money and 'non-jobs' in the public sector to be abolished.
When we start criticising private companies for spending their own money we are a rocky road to socialism and all the carp and waste that that entails.

[xoggoth]

What Cyberman said.

[DiscoStu]

This is one of the very rare occasions I agree with Cyberman.

[TimberWolf]

You think, but that is not proof. Show some proof and I may believe it.

I thought the proof was in every action they do, every bit of sleaze, the money they wealth and power they are burdened with after they leave politics, the friends they make and the lifestyle they lead. I don't keep a record of all of it, but surely you can't believe the Tories are not corrupted by it and that only one party is attractive to the people with power and influence who reside outside politics.

Here's one recent article I do recall.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ain-knees.html

For the deeply uncomfortable fact remains that the Tory Party depends for its very existence on the financial support of well-disposed private equity tycoons, investment bankers and hedge-fund managers - the self-same men and women who have brought Britain to its knees. A number of them, indeed, were sitting in the special Treasurers' seats in the conference audience as Osborne denounced their greed and incompetence...He failed to do enough to confront the money men who, like sharks, surround all political parties...It has also been devastating for the British economy. The tycoons who have privatised our political process over the past decade have - with one or two honourable exceptions - little conception of the national interest.

And something for contractors:

The comparison between the soft-touch regulation governing the financiers who have driven Britain to the wall and the mass of paperwork faced by anyone trying to run a small business is shocking.

Politicians' incestuous relationship with City tycoons means that government ministers are unable to articulate the genuine needs of millions of ordinary voters.

Instead, they have sold out British democracy to a small elite of self-interested, avaricious and very often amoral businessmen, and today we are all paying the price.

Whatever he might have said in his skilful speech yesterday, George Osborne will never be able to solve Britain's pressing financial problems until he takes on the rich men who control our political parties.

[Cyberman]

I like that bit about hedge fund managers. Did you know that Gordon Brown has brought one into his cabinet in the latest reshuffle?

As far as hedge fund managers are concerned though, they make money and they lose money, they pay tax, and they are entitled to donate to any political party that they like as long as it is within the law.
It sounds like a hypocritical witch-hunt is going on here as usual. You can tell that Labour are low in the polls.

[Cyberman]

... and the article appears to accuse the Tories of lack of regulation, whereas it has been Gordon Brown that changed the powers of regulation to apply a light touch. Brown is the culprit after 11 years in HMG, not some guy called Osbourne that has never even been in power.

[Paddy]

You think, but that is not proof. Show some proof and I may believe it. Like all taxpayers, I want value for money and 'non-jobs' in the public sector to be abolished.
When we start criticising private companies for spending their own money we are a rocky road to socialism and all the carp and waste that that entails.

Barclays is not a private company, it is a PLC Public Limited Company and is primarily responsible to it’s public shareholders. That are accountable for their expenditure but this is really enforced.

The fact that a politicos wife in involved in Barclays is a conflict of interest as public money is involved not to mention it’s politicians who make the Banking laws and regulations.

We in the UK do not run and never have run a free market economy. Large corporate dominant the market and they used there influence (called corruption in any other country) to prevent small business from flushing through legislation and restrictive practices.