uk police state wants to hold suspects for 3 months without charge

[sappatz]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4247638.stm

[Chico]

I say indefinately. Terrorists and their apologists/appeasers watch out

[The Lone Gunman]

Just think Chico, you just voted to be locked up forever, all it needs is for one of us to convince a copper that you are plotting a terror campaign.

The Police or the spooks or Govt. should have to present evidence in some form of court of law to validate to detention of any suspect.

[Chico]

I dont buy that argument show me anyone who has been wrongly caged for terrorist offences. They are all guilty.

[The Late, Great JC]

Chico, you say Terrorist, some say "Freedom Fighter" the UN says FUCTIFINO!

[insight14]

Sometimes Chico, I don't know whether you're an ignorant god botherer or just an excellent troll.

How about the Guildford 4?

[hattra]

show me anyone who has been wrongly caged for terrorist offences

I wouldn't try asking any Irish Republicans that question!

I think it looks quite likely that there was at least one wrongful conviction during the IRA bombing campaign. I've no sympathy for ANY terrorist organisation, but I prefer to put the guilty parties in jail, not the innocent, even if they do sympathise with the terrorists

[sunnysan]

Chico

Chico, this does not apply to the specific crime, its the principal of detention without trial.

Since you are a fine upstanding white citizen with christian principals which seem to blinker you from the fact that sweeping laws that affect our individual freedoms are not going to solve the problem, nor are they good for society as whole. You are not in the target demographic so why should you care.

The problem is that when the threat changes, the laws will prevail giving the government access to every aspect of your life.

Terrorists can be detained without trial anyway(Look what is happening at the moment) so I am not too sure why the laws need to be amended even more.

Are you not the slightest bit suspicious of the governments intentions?

Or is your rigid attitude based more on the theological demographic that these laws would presently be targeting?

Detention without charge is the hallmark of a police state and I would rather live with the percieved greater risk of being bombed or victim of a terrorist atrocity then living in a society where its easier for the state to intrude in your life at any time.

[Dundeegeorge]

Bottom line

I'd accept it as a useful law. If it actually made any difference at all to my chances of being blown up.

Papers, papers, can I see your papers?
Taxpayer, halt or I'll shoot. Raus, raus taxpayer!

[The Lone Gunman]

Chico, we have a chicken and egg situation.

How do you know that the people who have been locked up as terrorists actualy ARE terrorist? Where is the supporting evidence....... do you see?

I seem to remember anti terror laws being used against some tibetan freedom protestors during the chinese delegation visit last year.