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John Galt
19th September 2005, 12:02
Prison Reform (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4258968.stm)

This is an article about Charles Clarks prison reform proposals. Now I admit it could be me but it reads as though he just intends to make prison sentences shorter and less of a deterent than they are now. And the point is?

19th September 2005, 12:12
And the point is?

The point is to free up space for offenders that didn't pay their taxes or wore a bikini in their garden.

19th September 2005, 12:13

More tax money left over the only New Lie priority. Social engineering experiments on a massive scale. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_engineering_(political_science)

Nothing else really matters to them.

The Lone Gunman
19th September 2005, 13:26
Shouldnt he be making sure present policies are in order before trying new things?


Killer 'not properly supervised'
The teenager convicted of murdering jeweller Marian Bates was not properly monitored by his supervisors, an official report has found.

Probation inspectors said Peter Williams, 19, repeatedly breached his curfew order yet little was done.

The 64-year-old jeweller was gunned down in her family shop in Arnold, Nottingham, in September 2003.

Mrs Bates' husband Victor said the report showed tagging young offenders was a "complete waste of time".

Crowbar attack

Williams was released from a young offenders' institution on licence just 20 days before Mrs Bates' murder.

He attacked Mr Bates with a crowbar while his accomplice, who has never been caught, shot Mrs Bates in the chest as she shielded her daughter.

Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Probation (HMIP) said in the report that Williams had failed to attend a string of meetings with youth offending and drug workers, education staff and the police.

These were breaches of the terms of his licence which could have resulted in his return to custody.

Williams had also breached a curfew order - which was supposed to be enforced by his electronic tag - on at least six occasions.

Private monitoring company Premier failed to inform his Youth Offending Team of this until the morning of Mrs Bates' murder, by which time he had removed the tag completely.

The inspectors also discovered that his case manager was "inexperienced" and had no formal qualifications in youth work, social work or probation.

The report criticised those involved in supervising Williams, saying his case was not managed closely enough.

However, the inspectors pointed out that even if they had it may not have been enough to ensure Williams was back in custody before the killing.

'Isolated case'

Mr Bates, 66, said of the report: "It is a complete whitewash. Everybody is incompetent, but nobody is to blame. How can that be?

"He (Williams) was a serial breaker of every condition that they put on him, yet they kept letting him out. It shows that tagging does no good whatsoever."

A Premier spokesman insisted it had been an "isolated case".

"We accept the report as being accurate and thorough and have already acted on its findings."

The report did find that the Home Office's statement of operational requirements for electronic monitoring "did not clearly or adequately define" what was required for monitoring curfews.

But Norman Brennan, director of the Victims of Crime Trust, calling for tagging to be stopped immediately and an urgent review of non-custodial sentences.

He said: "If the murder of Marian Bates doesn't show the government that it needs to scrap tagging forthwith, I don't know what will."

He added: "The government has to scrap those sentences and begin a major new prison-building programme."

Williams was sentenced to life in prison for murder in May 2005.

Story from BBC NEWS:

Published: 2005/09/19 11:49:08 GMT


John Galt
19th September 2005, 14:06
And to make matters worse it has just been anounced that Charles Clark has said that we need fewer but larger police forces and the police should sort it out asap

19th September 2005, 14:08
Clark just like any other politician in his place wants desperately to break up independent style of the police forces -- I quiet like the fact that he has not got direct control over the police.