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Agents really ought to get some techie knowledge

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    Agents really ought to get some techie knowledge

    The following is part of a job spec sent to me:

    For our client we are looking for an Expert in Rational
    Developer (RDz) Required Skills: We believe that you have at least 5
    years experience in the following areas: Eclipse Deep knowledge of RDz,
    including areas such as installation and customization
    The only problem is, RDz has only been available for under a couple of years so how is anyone meant to have 5 years experience of it?

    <rant>This is one thing that really gets me about job specs and speaking to agents. A job spec will have a list of hundreds of acronyms of which you will probably have quite a few yet you are not considered suitable for the position. In my eyes therefore, the only person suitable is the person you are replacing. Other times you are told that you are not suitable because these TLAs are not on your profile yet you have used them extensively because they are part and parcel of a product, i.e. ISPF GML and file tailoring. If you have written large ISPF applications then you must have used these yet agents don't know this because they don't know what they are selling. The amount of times I have had conversations with agents and had to point out that what they require is actually part of the base operating system or product so I must have used it is getting to be silly. If I put down every product and sub-product on my CV then ot would be around 40 pages long, as it is I can only get it down to 8. </rant>
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

    #2
    A salesman only ever sells himself.

    HTH

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      #3
      Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
      The following is part of a job spec sent to me:



      The only problem is, RDz has only been available for under a couple of years so how is anyone meant to have 5 years experience of it?

      <rant>This is one thing that really gets me about job specs and speaking to agents. A job spec will have a list of hundreds of acronyms of which you will probably have quite a few yet you are not considered suitable for the position. In my eyes therefore, the only person suitable is the person you are replacing. Other times you are told that you are not suitable because these TLAs are not on your profile yet you have used them extensively because they are part and parcel of a product, i.e. ISPF GML and file tailoring. If you have written large ISPF applications then you must have used these yet agents don't know this because they don't know what they are selling. The amount of times I have had conversations with agents and had to point out that what they require is actually part of the base operating system or product so I must have used it is getting to be silly. If I put down every product and sub-product on my CV then ot would be around 40 pages long, as it is I can only get it down to 8. </rant>
      Agree completely.

      You could do a poll on this one and the Yes answer would practically be a head-count of experienced contractors on here.

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        #4
        Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
        The following is part of a job spec sent to me:



        The only problem is, RDz has only been available for under a couple of years so how is anyone meant to have 5 years experience of it?
        Maybe they want to seperate out the bulltulipers?

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          #5
          Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
          Maybe they want to seperate out the bulltulipers?
          They are the bulltulipters.

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            #6
            Originally posted by expat View Post
            They are the bulltulipters.
            A few contractors can give them a run for their money......

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              #7
              Actually installing RDz at the moment so I can say that I'm now experienced in it. Don't know what to do with it afterwards as its all that new fangled Java stuff
              Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                #8
                Easiest way to circumvent this is to put on your CV that you have the requisite number of year's experience. That might get you past the agent; if someone picks you up on it in the interview, just state that it is obviously nonsense and that the agent must have doctored the CV.
                "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. "


                Thomas Jefferson

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                  #9
                  but an agent would never doctor a CV
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
                    The following is part of a job spec sent to me:



                    The only problem is, RDz has only been available for under a couple of years so how is anyone meant to have 5 years experience of it?

                    <rant>This is one thing that really gets me about job specs and speaking to agents. A job spec will have a list of hundreds of acronyms of which you will probably have quite a few yet you are not considered suitable for the position. In my eyes therefore, the only person suitable is the person you are replacing. Other times you are told that you are not suitable because these TLAs are not on your profile yet you have used them extensively because they are part and parcel of a product, i.e. ISPF GML and file tailoring. If you have written large ISPF applications then you must have used these yet agents don't know this because they don't know what they are selling. The amount of times I have had conversations with agents and had to point out that what they require is actually part of the base operating system or product so I must have used it is getting to be silly. If I put down every product and sub-product on my CV then ot would be around 40 pages long, as it is I can only get it down to 8. </rant>
                    They really need to know how to make Google their friend on the Interweb.
                    If your company is the best place to work in, for a mere £500 p/d, you can advertise here.

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