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The bottom for investment banking is slipping from view

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    The bottom for investment banking is slipping from view

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/b...from-view.html

    The failure of the US firm sent the industry into a tailspin. Losses piled up and the streets of Manhattan and London were strewn with discarded bankers. But the upheaval doesn’t seem to have marked the trough. It now looks as though it was merely a signpost to steeper descent.

    December is turning out to have been devastating. Would-be survivors already have revealed deeper worries. Deutsche Bank, which had navigated the crisis more deftly than most, lost nearly 5bn euros in the fourth quarter on bad bond and equities trades. Barclays, which had been aiming to maintain flat headcount to grab market share in investment banking, made 2,100 redundant from the division on Tuesday – and another 2,100 the next day from its retail and commercial bank.

    Bank of America, which rode to the rescue of Merrill Lynch, is reportedly close to receiving billions of dollars more of taxpayers’ funds to help it shore up the stumbling Herd. Even JPMorgan’s investment bank posted sizeable losses.

    Most aspects of the business have suffered. Prime brokers will be reeling from the news that a record $150bn – or 10pc of the industry’s assets – was yanked out of the hedge funds they service last month alone.

    It was the worst December for equity issuance since 2002, according to Thomson Reuters, and November and December were the two worst months for M&A since September 2004. Jamie Dimon, the JPMorgan boss, has even suggested the formerly lucrative businesses of leveraged lending and securitisation will never come back.

    These could be especially bad omens for Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley. The bank holding companies formerly known as investment banks already have suffered losses and slashed jobs. But their quarters began – rather than ended – in December. This means if the emerging snapshot of the markets is accurate, Goldman and Morgan Stanley may have started off in yet another hole.

    More broadly, the growing pile-up of bad news suggests conditions throughout investment banking could get worse before they get better. Profits will be more elusive than previously thought. Job losses will mount. The bottom once in sight may have slipped from view.

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    Usually the darkest bit is just before dawn.

    #2
    Good riddance to all that unproductive backstabbing greedy scum.

    Hope they all decide to do something socially useful.
    Last edited by AlfredJPruffock; 16 January 2009, 08:27.

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      #3
      I recently had a meeting with a large banking group which has an IB arm. To quote one of their bods in the meeting

      We expect a great deal of turbulence in that part of the bank over the coming year

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        #4
        Originally posted by AlfredJPruffock View Post
        Good riddance to all that unproductive backstabbing greedy scum.

        Hope they all do soemthing socially useful.
        Politicians?

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          #5
          Originally posted by dinker View Post
          Politicians?
          Estate agents.

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            #6
            Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
            Estate agents.
            Whores.
            Rule #76: No excuses. Play like a champion.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Xenophon View Post
              Whores.
              Pimps?
              +50 Xeno Geek Points
              Come back Toolpusher, scotspine, Voodooflux. Pogle
              As for the rest of you - DILLIGAF

              Purveyor of fine quality smut since 2005

              CUK Olympic University Challenge Champions 2010/2012

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                #8
                All the banks are still up to their eyes in leveraged debt and toxic assets.

                Luckily Labour are creating a bad bank to hold them all at taxpayers expense.

                Personally I'd be happier if the assets of every banking employee were seized and sold to help pay for it all. Greedy, lying, evil ****ers.

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                  #9

                  Awww - the poor wee lambs !


                  Hard w@nking Bankers !

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                    All the banks are still up to their eyes in leveraged debt and toxic assets.

                    Luckily Labour are creating a bad bank to hold them all at taxpayers expense.

                    Personally I'd be happier if the assets of every banking employee were seized and sold to help pay for it all. Greedy, lying, evil ****ers.
                    Unfortunately that wouldn't be nearly enough to cover it all. They really have invented that much money.

                    Only a good bout of inflation will get rid of it.

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