Watch out pensioners...you're marked.

**Lucifer Box** · 29 September 2005, 07:25

I hope the pensioner concerned brings an assault charge as that is clearly what happened - two burly bouncers, who would not have looked out of place on the door of a Nottingham night club, physcially hauled the old fellow out of his seat and manhandled him out.

**hyperD** · 29 September 2005, 07:28

Well if they have the audacity to say things like this:

"We are in Iraq for one reason only - to help the elected Iraqi government build a secure, democratic and stable nation."

and not expect a reaction then the party is just wallowing in it's own sh1t.

Added to say: just heard that w @nker Blair on the radio saying sorry, but immediately disassociating himself from the incident by saying "I wasn't actually in the conference building at the time".

Like, if you were, would it make any difference?

**planetit** · 29 September 2005, 07:50

What is Tony Blair’s main political agenda for this parliament?

“RESPECT”.

And what a fine example of respect his party has shown. This man has been paying TB’s wages all his life, and the respect he is show is to be roughed up by party thugs.

It’s sick.

**Lucifer Box** · 29 September 2005, 07:56

Perhaps the local council should apply to take out an ASBO on the Labour Party?

**voron** · 29 September 2005, 08:01

I hope this will serve as a warning to those who believe that the government and police can be trusted with the new terrorism laws.
This pensioner was initially held under the terrorism laws. Shouting 'nonesense' at a party conference, dangerous stuff!

**Lucifer Box** · 29 September 2005, 08:08

Originally posted by voron

I hope this will serve as a warning to those who believe that the government and police can be trusted with the new terrorism laws.
This pensioner was initially held under the terrorism laws. Shouting 'nonesense' at a party conference, dangerous stuff!

Spot on, Voron. New powers "reluctantly introduced only to be used in the most serious cases" (yeah, my arse) always, always end up being used to their fullest extent as a matter of course within weeks of introduction. Cops see someone they don't like but aren't really sure what to nick them for? No problem, just bang 'em up under anti-terrorism laws. After all, you'll have three months to think up something to charge them with.

It's knobheads like Chico who say the state must be trusted to know what it's doing and act wisely, no smoke without fire, done nothing wrong then nothing to fear, who will sleep walk us into a police state.

**voron** · 29 September 2005, 08:13

Originally posted by Lucifer Box

It's knobheads like Chico who say the state must be trusted to know what it's doing and act wisely, no smoke without fire, done nothing wrong then nothing to fear, who will sleep walk us into a police state.

Exactly, if an 82-year-old party member can be detained for simply shouting out "nonesense", it proves just how fragile our freedom is. It doesn't matter if you have never broken a law in your entire life, all of us on this board are just one incident or one weirdo away from being arrested. Innocence is no defence these days.

**threaded** · 29 September 2005, 08:14

But if he is a lifelong member of the Labour party, and a New Lie supporter is he not deserving of being roughed up by them? How many contractors lives have been made a misery by the New Lies policies? So this guy was upset about Iraq, bet he wasn't upset about IR35 or S660A.

So, he gets roughed up by his own people ... well as far as I can see it, it is only fair.

**Lucifer Box** · 29 September 2005, 08:19

Originally posted by voron

Exactly, if an 82-year-old party member can be detained for simply shouting out "nonesense", it proves just how fragile our freedom is. It doesn't matter if you have never broken a law in your entire life, all of us on this board are just one incident or one weirdo away from being arrested. Innocence is no defence these days.

One of the broadsheets yesterday had an interesting article from a barrister in it. I forget which one (maybe somebody else saw it?) but his gist was that both the presumption of innocence and the burden of proof required has been seriously eroded within the last 5 years.

Anyway, I've been summoned for jury service the week after next so rest assured I'll send the bastards down.

Watch out pensioners...you're marked.