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@#@#@ stupid permies....

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    @#@#@ stupid permies....

    They really are...

    Ok they have the option to use technology X, very proprietary, very expensive, very much requested by the market, good for building skills to market in the future and eventually go contracting, very little chance of being outsourced (at least in the short term) and technology Y, lots of documentation available, easy to learn so not markeatable at all, easy to be outsourced.

    And.... they suggested Y in the hope that the company will recognise their dedication to business and the money they managed to save.

    Note.... the company is making a lot of people redundant right now. Guess which ones will be next... They do definitely deserve that, no other explanation...
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    It's amazing how many permies in large companies actually swallow all that guff about employees being the company's most important assets.
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      #3
      How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

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        #4
        Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
        It's amazing how many permies in large companies actually swallow all that guff about employees being the company's most important assets.
        It's true, but they're the companies most important expendable assets....

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          #5
          Originally posted by Francko View Post
          they suggested Y in the hope that the company will recognise their dedication to business and the money they managed to save.
          Oh dear.

          Sad to say that when things are cheap and money is saved, it's perceived as worthless. Whereas expensive stuff is perceived as critical to the business.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Francko View Post
            very expensive, very much requested by the market, good for building skills to market in the future and eventually go contracting, very little chance of being outsourced
            Another opportunity to jump on the gravy train missed, eh Franko.

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              #7
              my experience is

              companies do not respect software unless it is extremely expensive

              once the cost is painful, then they want to get the value from it

              a self professing spiral

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                #8
                Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
                It's amazing how many permies in large companies actually swallow all that guff about employees being the company's most important assets.
                They are but it's a list - before them there are computers, desks, printers, chairs, stationary cupboard, stationary.....................
                I think they are somewhere just above the bog roll - not yet met a permie whose boss has wiped his @rse on them.
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                  #9
                  So they chose a well-tested, stable, well-documented technology rather than being locked into some expensive proprietary system which hardly anyone knows how to use and would require extensive, expensive training for a few people who then screw the company up if they leave.

                  What a bunch of morons.
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                    #10
                    "Employees our most valuable asset"

                    Yes that phrase is a load of nonsense ... they really mean the exact opposite.

                    The other good one is "we value training as a centrally important aspect for our employees" or words to that effect. The more a company states that phrase the more you know that what they really mean is "turning our employees into non-thinking company robots".

                    "Customer facing". The more that and similar phrases are used, the more you know the extent to which they couldn't care less about after sales customer service and/or are infinitely more likely to hide behind statements like "nothing I can do - it's company policy" as if company policy is the holy shroud that must never be challenged or questioned. Of course robots wouldn't do that anyway.

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