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    For those thinking of going permie

    I wouldn't knock it, the way things are at present, but a word of warning ..

    An agent just phoned me to say that a client who interviewed me three months ago, and at the time chose someone else, would now like me for a similar contract role.

    Anyway, I said I'd be interested but am waiting to hear back from a couple of permie interviews (with quite good salaries, c £60K) and mentioned that security/continuity is becoming more important than contract rate if clients are booting people out after three months and then one hardly avoid a gap before the next contract (if any!).

    Not sure if it was scare tactics on his part, or a deliberate tactic by companies, but he replied that companies are increasingly taking on ex-contractors as permies, and then finding some pretext to let them go after three months anyway when they have satisfactorily completed some task!
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    Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
    I wouldn't knock it, the way things are at present, but a word of warning ..

    An agent just phoned me to say that a client who interviewed me three months ago, and at the time chose someone else, would now like me for a similar contract role.

    Anyway, I said I'd be interested but am waiting to hear back from a couple of permie interviews (with quite good salaries, c £60K) and mentioned that security/continuity is becoming more important than contract rate if clients are booting people out after three months and then one hardly avoid a gap before the next contract (if any!).

    Not sure if it was scare tactics on his part, or a deliberate tactic by companies, but he replied that companies are increasingly taking on ex-contractors as permies, and then finding some pretext to let them go after three months anyway when they have satisfactorily completed some task!
    They have up to a year to do that as you have **** all rights until you have been there a year. I was once dumped 3 weeks before the year was up as a permie.
    Knock first as I might be balancing my chakras.

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      #3
      Is this like the opposite of IR35?
      Cats are evil.

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        #4
        Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
        I wouldn't knock it, the way things are at present, but a word of warning ..

        An agent just phoned me to say that a client who interviewed me three months ago, and at the time chose someone else, would now like me for a similar contract role.

        Anyway, I said I'd be interested but am waiting to hear back from a couple of permie interviews (with quite good salaries, c £60K) and mentioned that security/continuity is becoming more important than contract rate if clients are booting people out after three months and then one hardly avoid a gap before the next contract (if any!).

        Not sure if it was scare tactics on his part, or a deliberate tactic by companies, but he replied that companies are increasingly taking on ex-contractors as permies, and then finding some pretext to let them go after three months anyway when they have satisfactorily completed some task!
        Work wonders for staff morale will that one ...

        Anyway, I'll take what an agent says with a pinch of salts vis-a-vis his take on things if he sniffs a chance of getting commission out of you. I've heard them come out with all manner of sh!te to try to get you hooked.
        Hang on - there is actually a place called Cheddar?? - cailin maith

        Any forum is a collection of assorted weirdos, cranks and pervs - Board Game Geek

        That will be a simply fab time to catch up for a beer. - Tay

        Have you ever seen somebody lick the chutney spoon in an Indian Restaurant and put it back ? - Cyberghoul

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          #5
          Try and avoid taking holidays in your first 11 months. Then, if they do get rid, you've accrued a pay-off of sorts.

          Just been approached regarding a 3 month contract in central London. Top rate £125 a day. May as well jump off that cliff now...
          Speaking gibberish on internet talkboards since last Michaelmas. Plus here on Twitter

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            #6
            Originally posted by MrMark View Post
            Try and avoid taking holidays in your first 11 months. Then, if they do get rid, you've accrued a pay-off of sorts.

            Just been approached regarding a 3 month contract in central London. Top rate £125 a day. May as well jump off that cliff now...
            I pay our childminder/nanny £80 a day.

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              #7
              Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
              I pay our childminder/nanny £80 a day.
              What for?
              And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                #8
                Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                What for?
                Childminding/Nanny duties for the children.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                  I pay our childminder/nanny £80 a day.
                  FFS Be careful or you'll re-ignite the wrath of SallyAnne and kick off yesterdays nursery debate again ...
                  Hang on - there is actually a place called Cheddar?? - cailin maith

                  Any forum is a collection of assorted weirdos, cranks and pervs - Board Game Geek

                  That will be a simply fab time to catch up for a beer. - Tay

                  Have you ever seen somebody lick the chutney spoon in an Indian Restaurant and put it back ? - Cyberghoul

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by snaw View Post
                    FFS Be careful or you'll re-ignite the wrath of SallyAnne and kick off yesterdays nursery debate again ...
                    Come on SA if you think you're hard enough!

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