The word "engineer" has been debased

[sasguru]

An engineer is someone with a 3-4 year engineering degree followed by some practical experience in industry or maybe a Chartered Engineer.
Anyone else is a technician of some kind.
No wonder the country is in the state its in.
If your British Gas boiler man calls himself an engineer, why will your children aspire to become one?

[Churchill]

An engineer is someone with a 3-4 year engineering degree followed by some practical experience in industry and maybe a Chartered Engineer.
Anyone else is a technician of some kind.
No wonder the country is in the state its in.
If your British Gas boiler man calls himself an engineer, why will your children aspire to become one?

You don't need a degree to become a chartered engineer.

Hth.

[DimPrawn]

So you're and Engineer are you? Where's your ******* hammer then?

That's what they used to shout in my day.

[sasguru]

You don't need a degree to become a chartered engineer.

Hth.

Thats what I said. Try to understand the meaning of the word "or".

HTH

[The Lone Gunman]

An engineer is someone with a 3-4 year engineering degree followed by some practical experience in industry and maybe a Chartered Engineer.
Anyone else is a technician of some kind.
No wonder the country is in the state its in.
If your British Gas boiler man calls himself an engineer, why will your children aspire to become one?

I agree in general, but would support what the puppy said in that someone with enough relevant experience should also be regarded as an engineer.

The term is devalued by the fact that bog cleaners are now sanitation engineers etc. In most of Europe the title requires qualifications.

[FSM with Cheddar]

sas is right on this one. Most other countries respect Engineers and give then a formal title like Doctors.

[DimPrawn]

The last engineer I spoke to was a young chap in a call centre in Mumbai.

He asked me how to spell USB.

[The Lone Gunman]

sas is right on this one. Most other countries respect Engineers and give then a formal title like Doctors.

It's what Zeity is laughing at. In Most of Europe the title is Ing. I believe it is derived from ingenious rather than engineer though.
But as I said the other day, there is no requirement in the UK for anybody in software to hold engineering status or even have any training or qualifications.

[Churchill]

Stone me, they've been banging on about that for donkey's years....

You need an MSc to become Chartered with the IET these days...

Not that there's much point in my experience, it's only a way of increasing the amount of money they extract out of you in fees.

Oh no you don't you know!

CEng is not dependant on holding a degree of any type.

[administrator]

The last engineer I spoke to was a young chap in a call centre in Mumbai.

He asked me how to spell USB.

Coffee meet keyboard / keyboard coffee. Damn you, prawn.