Jeff Randall on Labour's evil master plan

[GreenerGrass]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...p-on-them.html

Some great comments below as well, e.g. Zoe (near the bottom)

Labour didn't want to enrich us, they wanted to import masses of cheap labour from an immigrant underclass to do all the dirty, thankless work, and to make us such a globalised patchwork of differing peoples with differing outlooks and sympathies that the nation state as we know it would be destroyed, paving the way for mass globalization and eventual submersion into the emergent EU superstate. Their future is a massive, supranational proletariat where dissent is hate speech and you can be monitored from cradle to grave. It's Labour's brave new world.

[Cyberman]

My view has always been that Labour objectives are to create an underclass that will rely on their benefits culture and thus vote for them and keep returning them to power. Raising people's living standards is not their objective.
As a UK citizen, I want to see everybody's standard of living rise and know that this can only be done through a growing private sector, and not via a massive parasitic public sector. Thus, Labour will always fail to deliver what most of us should aspire to as they plunder and decimate the private sector with their high tax and recessionary policies to feed their bloated baby.

[Evil Hangover]

Great article. "Labour is the worst government we have had for a very long time" pretty much sums it up

[dinker]

My view has always been that Labour objectives are to create an underclass that will rely on their benefits culture and thus vote for them and keep returning them to power. Raising people's living standards is not their objective.

This is called gerrymandering and it`s illegal.

[centurian]

This is called gerrymandering and it`s illegal.

Like that's ever stopped a government...


I thought Gerrymandering was jiggling around constituency boundaries to basically put all the opposition's votes into one bit constituency and spread all your votes around as many constituencies as possible.

[Bagpuss]

This is called gerrymandering and it`s illegal.

No it's called nonsense as it was spoken by Cybertory.

The Tories started the whole immigration shenanigans in order to lower wage price inflation, capitalist economies always use immigrant labour. It's also worth noting there were millions on benefits under the tories too, presumably they were voting Tory then?

Some people on this site need to think a little more, rather than reiterate conspiracy theories that could apply equally to a Tory government

[bogeyman]

This is called gerrymandering and it`s illegal.

Gerrymandering is illegal in the US, but not so sure about the UK.

Labour have effectively been gerrymandering since they came to power in 1997 by redrawing parliamentary boundaries (although not always to their advantage, it must be said).

The Torys were actually much worse for gerrymandering in the 1980s (abolition of the GLC etc.)

Gordon's new found zeal for electoral reform is going to take gerrymandering to a whole new level. He wants votes for 16 year olds. A sort of demographic gerrymandering.

If he can't win by the existing system, he'll just change the system. Simple.

[MrMark]

No it's called nonsense as it was spoken by Cybertory.

The Tories started the whole immigration shenanigans in order to lower wage price inflation, capitalist economies always use immigrant labour. It's also worth noting there were millions on benefits under the tories too, presumably they were voting Tory then?

Some people on this site need to think a little more, rather than reiterate conspiracy theories that could apply equally to a Tory government

Asking a bit too much there I fear, Bagpuss

[DodgyAgent]

No it's called nonsense as it was spoken by Cybertory.

The Tories started the whole immigration shenanigans in order to lower wage price inflation, capitalist economies always use immigrant labour. It's also worth noting there were millions on benefits under the tories too, presumably they were voting Tory then?

Some people on this site need to think a little more, rather than reiterate conspiracy theories that could apply equally to a Tory government

The Tories have no interest in sustaining an underclass because:

1. they wont vote Tory
2. The prescence of an underclass gives the socialists a platform of power which again the tories dont like

The fact is that the Tories do not have the ideas or the will (to take on the socialist institutions, such as the Unions and those that run the education and health services) to get rid of the underclass.

Whilst it is all very well people like you equating the Tories with Labour there are too many people who are either too apathetic, too smug or with too much vested interest in maintaining the status quo.

It is only when things get really bad as they did under the last labour government that there is ever any appetite for real change or reform.

Socialists are like locusts. They contribute nothing to the growth of economies, yet strip them bare and return them to the dark ages of poverty.

[Bagpuss]

The Tories have no interest in sustaining an underclass because:

1. they wont vote Tory
2. The prescence of an underclass gives the socialists a platform of power which again the tories dont like

Oh yes they have, and they did. By Pushing people onto social security they were able to manipulate the unemployment figure. No government would suddenly move these people to unemployment benefit and double unemployment. Therein lies the problem, ALL governments want to maintain the status quo less otherwise they look bad. It is not some design to create popularity, if it is, it's not working is it? (local and euro elections?).
Someone on disability benefits for 15 years, isn't going to change from Tory to Labour and back. Voting patterns are not dependant on who are handing out the benefits.


Anway, where is this notion that the underclass vote, let alone vote Labour ? Can you provide any factual evidence?

Your post nowhere addresses the main issue of high immigration under the Conservatives