So where is the campaign to move our accounts away from Lloyds?

[MPwannadecentincome]

Lloyds 'must stop bringing in Indian staff', says union

Lloyds Banking Group should abandon its policy of flying Indian contractors to Britain to replace skilled IT staff, warned the state-backed lender's biggest union.
The LTU, which has more than 42,000 members, demanded the so-called 'Bank of Britain' ditch its offshoring policy and stop bringing overseas workers to the UK to undercut pay and replace the jobs of existing UK-based technology staff.

The union suggested Lloyds' policy was even more disturbing than that of French oil group Total in the dispute about foreign workers at the Lindsey oil refinery in Lincolnshire.

Furore: The LTU wants Lloyds Banking Group to abandon its Indian-worker policy
LTU assistant general secretary Steve Tatlow called for the bank to halt the 'outskilling' plan following revelations in the Daily Mail that Lloyds is shipping 'hundreds' of computer specialists over to Britain to help design and operate its complex IT systems.

Tatlow fumed: 'This is a disgrace and arguably a lot worse than the causes of the Lindsey dispute.

'Here, workers from India who would otherwise have no legal right to work in the UK, are being given work visas and flown into the country to take on jobs that could otherwise be given to existing UK-based staff.

'The government should be using its 43 per cent ownership of Lloyds to force the bank's board to act in the best interest of UK jobs and the UK economy.'

A Lloyds insider this week revealed that senior managers at Lloyds are concerned about the 'knowledge gaps' of the overseas contractors. Despite this, they are working on sensitive areas such as security and risk.

Lloyds (down 1.07p at 66½p) last week imposed a 15 per cent pay cut across its entire British IT contractor base. A Lloyds' spokesman said its IT outsourcing was 'standard industry practice'.

Is it 'standard industry practice' to bring the outsourced staff over here?

Where are the activists, where is the boycott campaign - was I asleep or something?

I'm going to close my LLoyds and Halifax current and savings account and transfer by mortgage elsewhere - that would give the managers something bigger to worry about!

The refinery workers managed to get their case onto the news pretty quick!

[pzz76077]

Lloyds 'must stop bringing in Indian staff', says union



Is it 'standard industry practice' to bring the outsourced staff over here?

Where are the activists, where is the boycott campaign - was I asleep or something?

I'm going to close my LLoyds and Halifax current and savings account and transfer by mortgage elsewhere - that would give the managers something bigger to worry about!

The refinery workers managed to get their case onto the news pretty quick!

It is standard practice to get the best value staff you can. 1000's of companies have been following the tec trek to India for the best part of 10 years.

Not sure they are doing anything illegal, so stopping it will be difficult and is already too late- these jobs are not coming back IMV.

Does anyone know if Lloyds are doing this directly or is this the company that they have outsourced to doing the shipping from India?? If its the latter then Lloyds may not have much of a say.

[sasguru]

Every single multinational (bank, oil companies, you name it ...) in the country is at it. Its quite simple - if you are a multinational you open an office in India, hire the staff there, then you can bring them here as "in-house employees" on secondment or whatever you choose. The trick is that they are your employees so you can move them round the world as you see fit. This way its not counted as out-sourcing.

It is of course totally wrong as it gets round the laws about advertising a job here before offering it to a foreigner on a work permit.

[HairyArsedBloke]

Lloyds 'must stop bringing in Indian staff', says union

Is it 'standard industry practice' to bring the outsourced staff over here?

It is now, has been for many years.

Where are the activists, where is the boycott campaign - was I asleep or something?

We tried back in 2003. It failed.

I'm going to close my LLoyds and Halifax current and savings account and transfer by mortgage elsewhere - that would give the managers something bigger to worry about!

They will probably pay you to go as you are in a 'high risk' occupation.

[sasguru]

Well the lack of response and interest in this thread shows why, ultimately, IT bods deserve to lose their jobs.

[Churchill]

Well the lack of response and interest in this thread shows why, ultimately, IT bods deserve to lose their jobs.

You really are an arsehole!

[Cyberman]

It is standard practice to get the best value staff you can. 1000's of companies have been following the tec trek to India for the best part of 10 years.

Not sure they are doing anything illegal, so stopping it will be difficult and is already too late- these jobs are not coming back IMV.

Does anyone know if Lloyds are doing this directly or is this the company that they have outsourced to doing the shipping from India?? If its the latter then Lloyds may not have much of a say.

It's not illegal because we have a stupid government that issue work-permits to these foreigners willy-nilly. Work-permits should only be issued if there is a skills shortage, and quite clearly we have not had a skills shortage in IT for almost a decade. These are the Labour voters of the future so they will certainly continue with this policy.

[pzz76077]

It's not illegal because we have a stupid government that issue work-permits to these foreigners willy-nilly. Work-permits should only be issued if there is a skills shortage, and quite clearly we have not had a skills shortage in IT for almost a decade. These are the Labour voters of the future so they will certainly continue with this policy.

Would agree, it will take a change in legislation and this will not happen. It is the net effect of the UK govs 'no protectionism here policy'. One of the many reasons why I will never take a contract in the UK again (Assuming there are any)!

PZZ

[sasguru]

You really are an arsehole!

Why? I'm merely pointing out that the lack of interest and ability to organise any pressure group to fight this blatant bending of the rules by large corporations will lead to the gradual disappearance of most IT jobs.
OK there's the PCG but what are they doing, really?

[Churchill]

Why? I'm merely pointing out that the lack of interest and ability to organise any pressure group to fight this blatant bending of the rules by large corporations will lead to the gradual disappearance of most IT jobs.
OK there's the PCG but what are they doing, really?

Why?

Do you really think it's funny to say that someone deserves to lose their job?

You're not pointing out anything, you're gloating over others misfortune. I was going to say "I hope you don't lose your livelyhood" but you know something I wouldn't give a sh!t if you did.