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moorfield
24th September 2009, 13:48
All guns blazing from the Daily Mail today.... cracking stuff....


PM's long-time ally, Shriti Vadera, jumps ship

Labour's support in northern England crumbling

Brown shunned by Obama in the U.S.

PM forced to deny claims he's going blind

Mandelson: I wish Brown had more 'razmatazz'

bogeyman
24th September 2009, 13:49
Yep. It's all turning brown.

I almost feel sorry for the sad git - but then I come to my senses.

Not So Wise
24th September 2009, 13:53
They are just trying to make sure he steps down before the election to "give Labour a chance to win" but honestly think they are better keeping him because no matter who leads Labour they have not got a chance of winning (*i hope*)

Better (for Labour) to keep him on, lose, dump him and give the replacement 4 years to prep

BrilloPad
24th September 2009, 14:00
They are just trying to make sure he steps down before the election to "give Labour a chance to win" but honestly think they are better keeping him because no matter who leads Labour they have not got a chance of winning (*i hope*)

Better (for Labour) to keep him on, lose, dump him and give the replacement 4 years to prep

I still dont think its a done deal that Labour will lose. I wish it were. DC is not up to the job and GB has been painting a picture that he has fixed the economy(despite having caused it to break).

At the end of the day whoever the sun wants to win will win.

swamp
24th September 2009, 14:12
I still dont think its a done deal that Labour will lose.

I agree.

* Lots of people still won't bring themselves to vote Tory (either Thatcher or 90's sleaze).
* Tories haven't reinvented themselves like 'New' Labour did.
* DC is lame.
* Tories are too similar to Labour; they supported the Iraq war and abused expenses.
* Voting map heavily biased towards Labour.

That said Gordon Brown won't win, but they may replace him and have a spring election. My money is on Mandelson* :eek:



* he needs a by-election seat though...

HairyArsedBloke
24th September 2009, 14:15
Aye. :suicide:

Ruprect
24th September 2009, 14:20
Labour have done a marvellous job in minimising the effects of the recession. You'd be mad to vote Tory :rolleyes:

Doggy Styles
24th September 2009, 15:36
Although Labour will probably lose, replacing Brown might save 30 or 40 seats. That's the 100 most marginal Labour MPs who might move to kick him out to save their jobs.

I don't think Mandelson is liked by any of the public so I can't see Labour wanting him.

They should just stick up a temporary charmer as a damage-limitation exercise.

BoredBloke
24th September 2009, 15:43
They would probably pick that slimey Milliband bloke!

xoggoth
24th September 2009, 17:42
Mandelson is by far the brightest and most pragmatic bloke they have. That's what really frightening.