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DimPrawn
30th October 2009, 17:41
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/6466949/Gordon-Brown-hails-breakthrough-as-EU-names-price-of-tackling-climate-change.html

But the summit text puts a 100 billion euros-a-year (£89.6 billion) price on curbing global warming by 2020, of which annual public funding is estimated at 22-50bn euros.(£19.7bn - £44.8bn.)

The EU's combined share of that would be between 7-10bn euros (£6.2bn - £8.96bn) a year by 2020.

UK officials say that, subject to the "conditional offer" being accepted in Copenhagen, the UK share of the EU contribution would work out at about £1bn a year by 2020.


:suicide:


Why not burn taxpayers money to ward off evil gods? Just as relevant.

EternalOptimist
30th October 2009, 17:48
I am thinking of getting SasGuru a christmas pressie. A lifetime subcription to 'The Flat Earth Society monthly'

Last month they had an article by the prestigious Dr Nean Detal entitled 'Dont drive for ages in a straight line, you WILL fall off'



:rolleyes:

sasguru
30th October 2009, 18:30
Yes its all a conspiracy to get tax out of you :rolleyes:

let's just call it a tax on stupidity.

EternalOptimist
30th October 2009, 18:36
Yes its all a conspiracy to get tax out of you :rolleyes:

let's just call it a tax on stupidity.

we all like attacks on stupidity. Lets tax war next.
tax all those nasty conflicts into oblivion


Is there no way that this lot can govern apart from, tax , fine, tax, spy , tax

grrr

:rolleyes:

Tingles
30th October 2009, 18:44
How much carbon is produced by war?

That shows more than anything else, it's total bollox!!

Spacecadet
30th October 2009, 18:45
How much carbon is produced by war?

That shows more than anything else, it's total bollox!!

Probably less than the amount of carbon produced by all these politicians and "scientists" flying round the world to attend global warming conferences in swanky hotels

Why does swanky become swinky????

Tingles
30th October 2009, 18:50
Probably less than the amount of carbon produced by all these politicians and "scientists" flying round the world to attend global warming conferences in swinky hotels

Why does swanky become swinky????

It's still bollox!!

xoggoth
30th October 2009, 19:13
I despair.

I am one of those on here who finds the arguments on manmade global warming fairly convincing and I think I have a background more suited to make that judgement than many of you.

Nevetheless, almost everything politicians are proposing is utter bollox. What is the point of green taxes that reduce the competitiveness of our industries and hand it to less energy efficient industries in China, adding transport emissions on top? What is the point of reducing our competiveness further by power shortages due to delaying coal fired plants when China is opening a new one every week? I am not entirely convinced about inefficient green solutions like windfarms or crop fuels which may generate more CO2 in their manufacture or the loss of trees than they contribute. "Aid to developing countries"? Good grief! Haven't we poured enough of the fruits of our efforts into that bottomless pit with no result already?

This issue generates a lot of heat but actually, a few things like CO2 capture aside, many solutions to the supposed problem could be agreed on by both sides as reducing fuel usage is essential anyway due to shortages, rising costs and the sourcing from potentially hostile states. Reducing enrgey use, whether you are a pro or an anti is surely a good thing.

It is mainly the incompetence, egotism, ignorance and dishonesty of too many politicians and vested interests that creates the opposition.

xoggoth
30th October 2009, 19:17
PS If war kills enough energy consuming people it is a great move. We just need to find energy efficient ways of exterminating people. Plague germs are good.

Tingles
30th October 2009, 19:17
Professor Bob Carter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=channel


Seems to know his onions....

TimberWolf
30th October 2009, 22:27
Who could have guessed Brown's breakthrough would involve spending lots of borrowed money? We are flush with cash anyway, so £1bn / year is no biggie. Well done Gordo, you may have saved the world again. I take it we are generously paying the lion's share?