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Bagpuss
20th November 2009, 11:10
Increases in rate or scope or new taxes? Or all the above, you decide.

MrMark
20th November 2009, 11:24
Did anyone see Gordo and Dave walking together to the Queens Speech? Gordo looked relaxed and was smiling without (seemingly) a care in the world. Dave looked extremely nervous - I think he's realised what's in store after the next election. Could be the election no-one tries to win...

BrilloPad
20th November 2009, 11:26
They wil bring in just as many as Labour will if they get back in.

Spacecadet
20th November 2009, 11:30
I think they'll introduce some sort of change to the council tax so that the tax is per person living in the house, rather than being based on the cost of the house.

Its only fair, after all more people = more drains on local resources

Bagpuss
20th November 2009, 11:31
I think they'll introduce some sort of change to the council tax so that the tax is per person living in the house, rather than being based on the cost of the house.

Its only fair, after all more people = more drains on local resources

Wasn't that the community charge, where housewives got bills for services for the first time. Not that the concept of housewife means much these days.

DimPrawn
20th November 2009, 11:32
They'll tax left-wing stupidity, raising a trillion pounds in the first week.

Watch out Baggy!

malvolio
20th November 2009, 11:33
Not so sure. Whoever wins will need to make the same kind of improvement to our overall balance of payments. Labou r won't cut public spending nor borrowing so will have to raise taxes across the board. Tories are rather more likely to cut public spending and borrowing (cue manicscreams of "what about the nurses!!!" and "It's Thatcher reincarnate" from the less aware members of our society) and so would need to raise taxes rather less.

Both approaches will cause pain and problems, and we are stuck with Brown's legacy for many years to come. However, I prefer the Tory mantra of letting me decide what I spend my money on.

Bagpuss
20th November 2009, 11:34
I expect some people think there will be tax cuts, now that is funny:laugh


I prefer the Tory mantra of letting me decide what I spend my money on.

That's which indirect tax you spend your taxed money on

hyperD
20th November 2009, 11:59
Lots of nice, shiney new green taxes, sadly.

I think the public sector cuts will not be as deep as required. No bonfire of the quangos either.

I think pretty much the same business as normal, although I hope I'm proved wrong.

TheFaQQer
20th November 2009, 12:02
I expect some people think there will be tax cuts, now that is funny:laugh

There will be - the only tax pledge that the tories have firmly made is to change inheritance tax for the rich.

HairyArsedBloke
20th November 2009, 12:10
I don't give a frak anymore - I should be long gone by the time it happens, if it ever does.

I was reading the other other day the ramblings of someone who hates this government, but hopes that they get another session and continue with their polices full steam ahead. The theory being that if people will not rise up and overthrow them now, they will after being hit with all the tulip that is coming their way.

The Conservatives will give the same tulip if they were in power, but then Labour can claim that it wasn't them.

DimPrawn
20th November 2009, 12:18
Firstly, the chances of the Tories winning is very slim.

They have to get a 6% swing in the vote to win and this has never happened before.

Secondly, the damage done by New Labour cannot be repaired, and so it's all a bit academic really.

You have two choices, stay and live a 3rd world existence or get out of here and try and make a new life somewhere like Aus, NZ, Canada or the mainland.

Me, I'm looking forward to owning lots of shiny wheelbarrows full of sterling and living off roadkill.

gingerjedi
20th November 2009, 12:19
Abolish final salary public sector pensions and replace with private options, then we'll see who wants to serve the country rather than have an easy life coasting towards a comfortable early retiremnet.

I have no idea how to do this or what it would save but I'd laugh raucously.:laugh

DimPrawn
20th November 2009, 12:26
Abolish final salary public sector pensions and replace with private options, then we'll see who wants to serve the country rather than have an easy life coasting towards a comfortable early retiremnet.

I have no idea how to do this or what it would save but I'd laugh raucously.:laugh

The easiest way of doing this is to raise retirement age to 90.

Most of the parasite public sector leeches won't see a penny of it and the government hasn't reneged on the contract.

:laugh

TheFaQQer
20th November 2009, 12:39
Firstly, the chances of the Tories winning is very slim.

They have to get a 6% swing in the vote to win and this has never happened before.

Cameron has the same lead in the polls as Blair did for his first term (13%). Blair transformed this to a 10% swing, and got a majority of 130+. If Cameron matches him, he'll have a majority of 54.

But I don't think he will. Hung parliament, anyone?

TimberWolf
20th November 2009, 12:47
Hung parliament, anyone?

I'm sure that would get a few votes.

RichardCranium
20th November 2009, 12:47
They will tax AndyWs and chutney spoons.

Chutney Spoon
20th November 2009, 12:49
They will tax AndyWs and chutney spoons.
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RichardCranium
20th November 2009, 12:53
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Bagpuss
20th November 2009, 17:22
Cameron has the same lead in the polls as Blair did for his first term (13%). Blair transformed this to a 10% swing, and got a majority of 130+. If Cameron matches him, he'll have a majority of 54.

But I don't think he will. Hung parliament, anyone?

I'm not so sure they won Crewe and Nantwich pretty convincingly (and that's hardly a safe Tory seat). They won't turn the NE blue nor of course Scotland, but the midlands and the North west are going that way and that should be enough.

minestrone
20th November 2009, 17:36
Tories will win at best 1 seats in Scotland, even in my old stomping ground of East Ren which was the safest tory seat in Scotland and held for many years they only could lose it by putting in a drunk who attacked some motorway protesters with a pick axe handle while his son shot at them with an airifle. That emaciated cock Jim Murphy has been in ever since and is probably going to win again.

The best thing for England would be to cut Scotland off and let it drift into a socialist hell that it wants to be, if you see me at the border with a cart load of posessions let me through please.

centurian
20th November 2009, 18:19
Cameron has the same lead in the polls as Blair did for his first term (13%). Blair transformed this to a 10% swing, and got a majority of 130+. If Cameron matches him, he'll have a majority of 54.

But I don't think he will. Hung parliament, anyone?

Major had a single digit majority in 1997. Brown has a much bigger margin.

The national split of the vote doesn't represent what happens on a seat-by-seat basis. Generally speaking, you need extra (national) points to be sure of overcoming an incumbent MP, so a 10% (national) swing may still not be enough.