Climategate

[Troll]

It all seems to be unravelling pretty quickly - led by the US & Australia - it's indicative of the servile state of Britain that more people & institutions have not questioned the basic premise (& data) of the governments position as the 'scientific evidence' does appear to be tarnished and not subjected to the usual robust scrutiny associated with scientific studies - all very Emperors new clothes mixed in with a Salem witch trial

So.... will get all the taxes & 100w light bulbs back?

[HairyArsedBloke]

It all seems to be unravelling pretty quickly - led by the US & Australia - it's indicative of the servile state of Britain that more people & institutions have not questioned the basic premise (& data) of the governments position as the 'scientific evidence' does appear to be tarnished and not subjected to the usual robust scrutiny associated with scientific studies - all very Emperors new clothes mixed in with a Salem witch trial

So.... will get all the taxes & 100w light bulbs back?

This is going to be the lasting legacy of this whole farce. Science will take centuries to recover from this. For example, it plays right into the creationists hands.

[OwlHoot]

Climate change skeptics are in for a nasty shock when subspot activity resumes in a few years ...

[AtW]

I grown up in Siberia and could see that winters got *MUCH* milder in space of just 20 years.

Now who exactly caused it is another question, but it seems doubtful to me that human activity had small effect on it, think about it:

1) 1 barrel of oil = 158.987295 litres
2) daily extraction of oil is around 70 million barrels per day, that's 11,060,000,000 liters per day

Most of daily oil gets used one way or another - in annual terms that's 4,036,900,000,000 liters.

That's an effing huge number!!!

No wonder shecks are football club buyers now.

[TimberWolf]

I grown up in Siberia and could see that winters got *MUCH* milder in space of just 20 years.

Now who exactly caused it is another question, but it seems doubtful to me that human activity had small effect on it, think about it:

1) 1 barrel of oil = 158.987295 litres
2) daily extraction of oil is around 70 million barrels per day, that's 11,060,000,000 liters per day

Most of daily oil gets used one way or another - in annual terms that's 4,036,900,000,000 liters.

That's an effing huge number!!!

No wonder shecks are football club buyers now.

Wait and see what happens to oil consumption as poorer countries start getting richer and as world population increases. Changing to more energy efficient light bulbs isn't going to make any difference; oil and coal will all be used up while it is economically viable to continue doing so. People will just have to adapt to climate change, as they always have.

[TimberWolf]

1) 1 barrel of oil = 158.987295 litres

Ugh, what an awful unit. Civilised people use cubic metres (or litres).

[HairyArsedBloke]

Climate change skeptics are in for a nasty shock when subspot activity resumes in a few years ...

[d000hg]

Whether it's valid or not I always wonder why people get so hot-headed over this. Seems non-scientists on both sides turn it into a zealotry rather than science.

Besides, any moves which make pollution better and slow the usage of fossil fuels are great even if the reason used is not actually true. Towns which don't make you ill from breathing, and a future where we haven't run out of oil, both seem attractive to me.

[Bagpuss]

Whether it's valid or not I always wonder why people get so hot-headed over this. Seems non-scientists on both sides turn it into a zealotry rather than science.

Besides, any moves which make pollution better and slow the usage of fossil fuels are great even if the reason used is not actually true. Towns which don't make you ill from breathing, and a future where we haven't run out of oil, both seem attractive to me.

Well said, why would anyone think higher emissions is a good thing?

[RichardCranium]

any moves which make pollution better and slow the usage of fossil fuels are great even if the reason used is not actually true. Towns which don't make you ill from breathing, and a future where we haven't run out of oil, both seem attractive to me.