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EternalOptimist
25th January 2010, 12:16
I paid my dues on Friday morning and attended the speed awareness course. It was a lot better than I had thought and I learned a lot of useful stuff, like how to identify the speed in leui of speed signs.

There was a fair bit of billocks as well, 25% of the time was how to be an eco friendly driver. Slow down to save on GW.
25% Of the time on corporate responsibility even though we only had 1 professional driver there

hey ho

:rolleyes:

cojak
25th January 2010, 12:23
What were the biscuits like?

Churchill
25th January 2010, 12:25
I paid my dues on Friday morning and attended the speed awareness course. It was a lot better than I had thought and I learned a lot of useful stuff, like how to identify the speed in leui of speed signs.

There was a fair bit of billocks as well, 25% of the time was how to be an eco friendly driver. Slow down to save on GW.
25% Of the time on corporate responsibility even though we only had 1 professional driver there

hey ho

:rolleyes:

What was your pledge?

Mine was "I endeavour not to get caught speeding again!"

Mich the Tester
25th January 2010, 12:26
Any amusing anecdotes from you or your fellow students? Best excuse for speeding?

mudskipper
25th January 2010, 12:27
I did mine a couple of weeks back. Also much better than I'd feared, and learned some useful stuff.

Like the example where bloke stopped on country lane waiting to turn right, got hit up the arse and ended up being hit by oncoming car, because he'd turned his steering wheel rightwards so that's the direction he went in when hit. Did they show you the M4 simulation? Truly shocking stuff.

Must admit, I was surprised how few deaths there are on the roads - of course any number is too many - but my guesstimate was out by a factor of 5.

EternalOptimist
25th January 2010, 12:34
Any amusing anecdotes from you or your fellow students? Best excuse for speeding?

oh thanks Mitch. I wished the floor could open up and swallow me.
we had a group discussion about excuses, and of course I made a joke of it.
Then the guy running the course comes to our table and says - who is your spokesman

of course they all point at me

'Er like, me wife ran away with a policemans occifer, an when I saw yer blue flashin lights, I thought youse were bringing her back. like.'


:rolleyes:

Paddy
25th January 2010, 12:43
.

Like the example where bloke stopped on country lane waiting to turn right, got hit up the arse and ended up being hit by oncoming car, because he'd turned his steering wheel rightwards so that's the direction he went in when hit. .

Basic stuff as per the IAM manual.

VectraMan
25th January 2010, 13:19
like how to identify the speed in leui of speed signs.

How do you identify the speed (limit) in leiu of signs? If the signs aren't there, surely the limit doesn't apply (or at least they can't prosecute you for breaking it)?

Sysman
25th January 2010, 13:24
Defaults to 30mph with lamp posts unless otherwise indicated.

From decades ago I remember a chap getting off a charge of speeding in a 30mph limit because the lamp posts were more than 200 feet apart.

Paddy
25th January 2010, 13:35
From decades ago I remember a chap getting off a charge of speeding in a 30mph limit because the lamp posts were more than 200 feet apart.

That was correct however; I believe the law has changed. I recently went through a new 30mph area in the countryside that had no lampposts and no repeater signs. Also any limit below 30mph must by law have extra markings such and marking on the tarmac to designate the restricted speed area however, local councils seem to often ignore this. There are several stretches of roads now that go from limits of 30 to 40 to 30 to 50 to 60 to 30 within a mile or so. It’s now very difficult to distinguish what is the limit is

Sysman
25th January 2010, 13:40
That was correct however; I believe the law has changed. I recently went through a new 30mph area in the countryside that had no lampposts and no repeater signs. Also any limit below 30mph must by law have extra markings such and marking on the tarmac to designate the restricted speed area however, local councils seem to often ignore this. There are several stretches of roads now that go from limits of 30 to 40 to 30 to 50 to 60 to 30 within a mile or so. It’s now very difficult to distinguish what is the limit is

I'm sure it changed years ago. I was most surprised to see that some bits of country road without lamp posts in an old stomping ground had been changed from derestricted to 30mph and that was a decade ago.

VectraMan
25th January 2010, 13:47
The cul de sac I live on is technically a 40 because the main road it attaches to is a 40 and there's no sign to say anything different. But as it has lamposts, is it really a 30? But then the main road also has lamposts, and doesn't have 40 signs every few yards. So how are you meant to know the difference between a 40mph road with lamposts and a 30 mph road with lamposts with a sign missing?

In Buckingham they've been switching off street lighting as an "experiment". Does that mean that the speed limit being 30 because of lamposts doesn't apply at night because you can't see the lamposts? Or does it not apply at any time because the lampposts don't have lamps that work? Is a lamppost a lamppost if it doesn't light up, or is it just a post?

Hmmm.

EternalOptimist
25th January 2010, 14:06
The cul de sac I live on is technically a 40 because the main road it attaches to is a 40 and there's no sign to say anything different. But as it has lamposts, is it really a 30? But then the main road also has lamposts, and doesn't have 40 signs every few yards. So how are you meant to know the difference between a 40mph road with lamposts and a 30 mph road with lamposts with a sign missing?

Hmmm.

The cul de sac is a 40.
If you are driving through lamposts and you see signs on them, you know its not 30, so you can put your foot down. When you can read the signs, you know if its a 40 or a 50.
If you are driving through lamposts and you see a junction, and the junction is marked 30, you can put your foot down because you must be in a 40 or 50.

until then, its a 30


:rolleyes:

DaveB
25th January 2010, 14:44
If it's a built up area and I can't see any signs I just assume it's 30 untill I see something that says otherwise.