Tories Back Wealth Redistribution

[Captain Jack]

The Conservatives should try to narrow the gap between rich and poor, the party's new policy chief has said. In an interview with the Daily Telegraph, Oliver Letwin said a future Conservative government should make wealth redistribution its goal.

Whatever happened to the idea of making the cake bigger? Mrs Thatcher must be having a fit.

[John Galt]

Oh good grief - another victim of the NL brainwash. You can't redistribute what isn't there!! Why are they being such wimps? It's pathetic

[stackpole]

Whatever happened to the idea of making the cake bigger? Mrs Thatcher must be having a fit.

I'm sure that the Tories know as well as you and I that this is ridiculous, but 80% of the public will be taken in, and that is all that matters.

They are finally learning that you've got to get elected first.

[AlfredJPruffock]

"The thing which is so amazing about her," said Valance, "is what shes trying to do, Im talking about , you know who, torture, Maggie The Bitch.

Shes radical all right.

What shes wants, what she actually thinks she can achieve is literally to invent a whole new middle class in this country.

Get rid of the old wooly incompetent buggers from Surrey and Hampshire and bring in the new.

People without background,hungry people.

People who really want, People who know with her they can get.

Nobodys tried to replace an entire middle class before and it might just work if they dont get her first.

The old class. The dead men.

And not just the businessmen.

The Intellectuals too.

Out with the old faggoty crew, in with the new hungry guys with the wrong education.

In with the new professors, new painters the lot.

Its a bloody revolution.

Newness coming into this country thats stuffed with old fücking corpses.

On Sunday afternoons we go to bed and watch porno movies,its a new World Saladin.

Everybody has to join sometime."

And now for the coup de grace.

"See you around Ok ?"

"Ha ! Objected Saladin, Ive got a contract."

Get a lawyer to read the small print, take me to court, do what you have to do.

Dont you get it ?

Youre history.


Dialing Tone.

S Rushdie The Satanic Verses

[John Galt]

I'm sure that the Tories know as well as you and I that this is ridiculous, but 80% of the public will be taken in, and that is all that matters.

They are finally learning that you've got to get elected first.

No. The general public need to be educated. Forget the spin and all this pc rubbish, the tories should tell it how it is - simply and in words of one syllable if necessary - otherwise, if they do get it, they will be accused of telling lies before they even start.

[stackpole]

No. The general public need to be educated. Forget the spin and all this pc rubbish, the tories should tell it how it is - simply and in words of one syllable if necessary - otherwise, if they do get it, they will be accused of telling lies before they even start.

Sorry JG but the Tories have been trying to educate the public for eight years and it has not worked.

They are now doing exactly what Tony Blair does, spout vague aspirations without any solid policy. It's the long game - the drip-drip of user-friendly, cuddly aspirations gradually moving public opinion to take them off the "do not touch" list.

Come the election, when they publish their policies in their manifesto, they'll just pick one out and say it will result in "closing the gap between the rich and poor". Any policy, it doesn't matter as long as the public see some vague connection.

This is exactly what Labour have been doing. They have pursued their real agenda beneath their public pronouncements. As long as the Tories' real agenda is what you want, what do you care how they present themselves to the terminally ignorant masses?

[AlfredJPruffock]

Sorry JG but the Tories have been trying to educate the public for eight years and it has not worked.

They are now doing exactly what Tony Blair does, spout vague aspirations without any solid policy. It's the long game - the drip-drip of user-friendly, cuddly aspirations gradually moving public opinion to take them off the "do not touch" list.

Come the election, when they publish their policies in their manifesto, they'll just pick one out and say it will result in "closing the gap between the rich and poor". Any policy, it doesn't matter as long as the public see some vague connection.

This is exactly what Labour have been doing. They have pursued their real agenda beneath their public pronouncements. As long as the Tories' real agenda is what you want, what do you care how they present themselves to the terminally ignorant masses?

Spot on SP.

I was thinking myself of some drip drip slogans such as Vote Tory for Peace and Prosperity ...Vote Tory for better Health and Welfare Care ...all nonsense of course but if Blair could dupe the UK into a War with Iraq anything in politics is feasible.

Leave the morality to the boys in the Vatican.

We,being wicked men, know too well the real agenda which is ...

May the Devil take the hindermost ....

[John Galt]

Sorry JG but the Tories have been trying to educate the public for eight years and it has not worked.

They are now doing exactly what Tony Blair does, spout vague aspirations without any solid policy. It's the long game - the drip-drip of user-friendly, cuddly aspirations gradually moving public opinion to take them off the "do not touch" list.

Come the election, when they publish their policies in their manifesto, they'll just pick one out and say it will result in "closing the gap between the rich and poor". Any policy, it doesn't matter as long as the public see some vague connection.

This is exactly what Labour have been doing. They have pursued their real agenda beneath their public pronouncements. As long as the Tories' real agenda is what you want, what do you care how they present themselves to the terminally ignorant masses?

You're right Stack - your last sentence really says it all

[Fungus]

Whatever happened to the idea of making the cake bigger? Mrs Thatcher must be having a fit.

Today fluffy bunny is where it's at. Sadly. Tell it like it is ... and you don't get elected.

Fungus

[Fungus]

Sorry JG but the Tories have been trying to educate the public for eight years and it has not worked.

They are now doing exactly what Tony Blair does, spout vague aspirations without any solid policy. It's the long game - the drip-drip of user-friendly, cuddly aspirations gradually moving public opinion to take them off the "do not touch" list.

Come the election, when they publish their policies in their manifesto, they'll just pick one out and say it will result in "closing the gap between the rich and poor". Any policy, it doesn't matter as long as the public see some vague connection.

This is exactly what Labour have been doing. They have pursued their real agenda beneath their public pronouncements. As long as the Tories' real agenda is what you want, what do you care how they present themselves to the terminally ignorant masses?

Yes you are spot on. The problem is, if they make specific policies, then New Lier either adopts them as their own, or invokes one of many bogey-men such as privatisation of the NHS, school selection at age 11, racism, withdrawal from Europe and so on. Sadly the public are so thick that they believe them, or more accurately New Lier creates sufficient mis-trust of the Tories that they do not vote for them.

So they have now learnt to use warm fluffy phrases that are vague and 'aspirational' but have no actual content as to how it will be implemented. Exactly like Blair. I still recall the Blair interview with David Dimbleby where DD repeatedly tried to press Blair for detail, but it was like water off a ducks back to Blair, who continued with the feely touchy pronouncements of "improving the NHS for everyone" and "fighting crime and the causes of crime".

Sadly this seems to be how American politics is so maybe that is the way we are going. They fight in Iraq to "preserve freedom and justice" and to "fight terror" and other statements that no-one can argue with. (Though some might argue that you cannot fight an abstract noun.)

Fungus