Should be on iPlayer later, started about 15min ago. Seems less stilted than usual, worth a listen. He's not doing too great based on the answers, but it's interesting to hear him in conversation in a bit more relaxed a scenario.
EDIT: they're really laying into him. Save it for when you have 30min to spare on iPlayer.
EDIT: they're really laying into him. Save it for when you have 30min to spare on iPlayer.
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