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Banning of Burqa - Good or bad?

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    Banning of Burqa - Good or bad?

    Belgium is about to ban Burqa in public.

    How much of a human rights violation is this ?

    Personally, I think if women are forced to wear the Burqa its a voilation of human rights but if they wear it because they want to, then who are we to stop them ?
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    Originally posted by fullyautomatix View Post
    Belgium is about to ban Burqa in public.

    How much of a human rights violation is this ?

    Personally, I think if women are forced to wear the Burqa its a voilation of human rights but if they wear it because they want to, then who are we to stop them ?
    I am not sure which poster this is, but I am still in favour of banning Milan.
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      #3
      I do feel offended seeing women wearing burquas, thinking women have thrown themselves under trains in the name of freedom, however, if it is someone's choice then who am I to question that? And should I really be offended by what someone is or isn't wearing? Also, what to do? Throw them in prison??

      As illogical as it is I do feel offended by the wearing of them, I think they symbolise the oppression of women by ancient religions.

      I wonder what AC Grayling would say / has said?

      interesting:

      http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/02/22/...-a-c-grayling/
      Last edited by Boudica; 22 April 2010, 08:17. Reason: found AC Grayling comment

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        #4
        Originally posted by fullyautomatix View Post
        Belgium is about to ban Burqa in public.

        How much of a human rights violation is this ?

        Personally, I think if women are forced to wear the Burqa its a voilation of human rights but if they wear it because they want to, then who are we to stop them ?
        Belgium is not voting to ban the Burqa.

        The ban applies to clothing that hides someone's identity in public places such as parks, buildings and on the street.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Churchill View Post
          Belgium is not voting to ban the Burqa.

          The ban applies to clothing that hides someone's identity in public places such as parks, buildings and on the street.
          That is perhaps a PC way of putting it.
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            #6
            Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
            I am not sure which poster this is, but I am still in favour of banning Milan.
            Why should he be banned ? Because he voiced his opinion ?
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              #7
              Originally posted by Churchill View Post
              Belgium is not voting to ban the Burqa.

              The ban applies to clothing that hides someone's identity in public places such as parks, buildings and on the street.
              Originally posted by fullyautomatix View Post
              That is perhaps a PC way of putting it.
              No it isn't, it's exactly what they're voting for.

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                #8
                It is a tricky subject.

                On the one hand, telling people what they can and cannot wear is an affront to the British view of freedom and I don't think people would stand for it.

                On the other hand, people used to claim that their slaves were happy. Did that make slavery OK?

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                  #9
                  I wonder if this is a clever bit of political psychological manipulation.

                  The stated point of the proposed law in Belgium explicitly states hiding ones identity in public is to be an offence. Such a law would apply to all fancy dress; so Old Holborn would be nicked straight away. It would apply to street theatre, anyone wrapping up against the cold, or any number of circumstances. In Belgium it is compulsory to carry ones identity card when in public.

                  Clearly some forms of Muslim dress will also be caught by this law. However, I don’t believe that they are the specific targets, but the law makers are exploiting racism in the general population to gather support for this proposal. Just how much of a ‘problem’ is there in Belgium with women wearing such clothing?

                  Everyone would be the victim of this proposed law. It is about making it easier for people to be identified.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by HairyArsedBloke View Post
                    I wonder if this is a clever bit of political psychological manipulation.

                    The stated point of the proposed law in Belgium explicitly states hiding ones identity in public is to be an offence. Such a law would apply to all fancy dress; so Old Holborn would be nicked straight away. It would apply to street theatre, anyone wrapping up against the cold, or any number of circumstances. In Belgium it is compulsory to carry ones identity card when in public.

                    Clearly some forms of Muslim dress will also be caught by this law. However, I don’t believe that they are the specific targets, but the law makers are exploiting racism in the general population to gather support for this proposal. Just how much of a ‘problem’ is there in Belgium with women wearing such clothing?

                    Everyone would be the victim of this proposed law. It is about making it easier for people to be identified.
                    Much like Holland, there were very few burqas in Belglum, in fact you could count them on the fingers of one hand, excluding a few visitors from abroad in Brussels. Then the anti-immigrant politicians started whining about burqas and women started wearing them out of anger at their liberty being threatened.

                    I’d only ever seen two women wearing the full burqa in Holland until the last couple of years when Geert Wilders started ranting about them, and now I see one or two in every city. Still not enough to really concern me.
                    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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