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Doggy Styles
7th May 2010, 15:30
Lib Dems want electoral reform to play ball.

Dave should offer the single transferable vote (STV) to them if they agree to support Scottish independence. Then the Scots and the English get the governments they want.

The Scots will be run by Labour with SNP as their main opposition. And rid of the Tories. They will also have their own economy to manage as they see fit.

The English will be run by Tories with LibDems and Labour fighting it out to be their main opposition. As Lib Dems and Labour are both fighting for the same leftish ground, the STV will give the Lib Dems more Labour seats than they would otherwise get.

What could be happier all round? :D

Moscow Mule
7th May 2010, 15:40
Cameron should 'experiment' with making a coalition with Brown.

They could call it Labor-a-tory...

Hahahahahaha...

Mich the Tester
7th May 2010, 15:41
Cameron should 'experiment' with making a coalition with Brown.

They could call it Labor-a-tory...

Hahahahahaha...

:suicide:

threaded
7th May 2010, 15:51
How a Tory-LibDem alliance could work

Much like a high performance car blasting up the fast lane of the motorway after filling up, accidentally with diesel.

contractor79
7th May 2010, 15:53
If the Tory-Libdem alliance goes ahead, the Tories will go along with it until the Libdems get awkward, then they'll call an election and blame the Libdems and wipe out the Libdems, who's voters will already angry at them for joining the Tories.

I keep on saying- Clegg could be the end for the Libdems. He has some huge decisions ahead of him.

d000hg
7th May 2010, 15:55
Much like a high performance car blasting up the fast lane of the motorway after filling up, accidentally with diesel.Is Brown the high performance sports car or the reliable, efficient fuel used to power industry? You big socialist!

gingerjedi
7th May 2010, 16:00
Is Brown the high performance sports car or the reliable, efficient fuel used to power industry? You big socialist!

Neither, he's the plonker who filled it up.

Doggy Styles
7th May 2010, 16:27
Neither, he's the plonker who filled it up.:rollin::rollin::rollin:

Never a truer word and all that!

ThomasSoerensen
7th May 2010, 17:43
Much like a high performance car blasting up the fast lane of the motorway after filling up, accidentally with diesel.

Not again Threaded. When will you learn, tsk tsk.

MrMark
8th May 2010, 07:29
Lib Dems want electoral reform to play ball.

Dave should offer the single transferable vote (STV) to them if they agree to support Scottish independence. Then the Scots and the English get the governments they want.

The Scots will be run by Labour with SNP as their main opposition. And rid of the Tories. They will also have their own economy to manage as they see fit.

The English will be run by Tories with LibDems and Labour fighting it out to be their main opposition. As Lib Dems and Labour are both fighting for the same leftish ground, the STV will give the Lib Dems more Labour seats than they would otherwise get.

What could be happier all round? :D

There's a clue in the name "Conservative and Unionist Party".
I agree that Scottish independence would give an big electoral advantage to the Conservatives in England, and since they can't get any support in Scotland they may go down this route. Yet they (as indeed are all the major parties) are still keen to keep Scotland in the union, which makes me suspect Scotland is still of great value to the United Kingdom.
Maybe whisky is the one export we can rely on?

VectraMan
8th May 2010, 07:42
If the Tory-Libdem alliance goes ahead, the Tories will go along with it until the Libdems get awkward, then they'll call an election and blame the Libdems and wipe out the Libdems, who's voters will already angry at them for joining the Tories.

I keep on saying- Clegg could be the end for the Libdems. He has some huge decisions ahead of him.

Of course if a Tory led goverment sorts out the boundary issues as a matter of priority, they probably will get a majority in a near future election with the same proportion of votes. So the coallition doesn't have to last that long.

If they're smart, the LibDems will agree to abstain for a certain period to ensure some stability, which means Cameron can go ahead and form a minority government. That way the LibDems don't have to look like they've sold out their principles just to get some small amount of power, and nor do they take the blame for propping up the Labour government nobody wanted. Being the "king maker" might sound good, but really it's a lose-lose situation for them.

shaunbhoy
8th May 2010, 09:28
Anybody else noticed just how quiet the NL apologists on the forum have been for the last 24-36 hours? Champagne socialists eh? PAH!
:eyes

Doggy Styles
10th May 2010, 09:15
Anybody else noticed just how quiet the NL apologists on the forum have been for the last 24-36 hours? Champagne socialists eh? PAH!
:eyesGive it a few weeks, and the line will be:

"Gordon was a brilliant chancellor but not so good at PM. Put him in the Lords as Lord Chancellor, get a new leader, and the Labour party will be up and running again."

Imagine Ed Balls as Prime Minister.

Gibbon
10th May 2010, 09:45
Give it a few weeks, and the line will be:

"Gordon was a brilliant chancellor but not so good at PM. Put him in the Lords as Lord Chancellor, get a new leader, and the Labour party will be up and running again."

Imagine Ed Balls as Prime Minister.

No! No! it's bad enough having him for my MP. Can't stand the slimely smug tw*t.
Just kicking myself for not producing enough postal votes !

Doggy Styles
10th May 2010, 10:41
No! No! it's bad enough having him for my MP. Can't stand the slimely smug tw*t.
Just kicking myself for not producing enough postal votes !But surely, you must admire someone who will ensure that all schools should be above average ?

Churchill
10th May 2010, 10:44
But surely, you must admire someone who will ensure that all schools should be above average ?

Look, can we leave reality out of this? It scares me and DaveB is having real problems keeping up.

Gibbon
10th May 2010, 10:45
But surely, you must admire someone who will ensure that all schools should be above average ?

Stop it, pretty please.........

OwlHoot
10th May 2010, 11:16
But surely, you must admire someone who will ensure that all schools should be above average ?

Chortle :laugh

I planned to change my .sigs and avatar as soon as the dust settled. But it seems to be swirling round more than ever

fullyautomatix
10th May 2010, 11:29
But surely, you must admire someone who will ensure that all schools should be above average ?


I agree with Doggy styles

fullyautomatix
10th May 2010, 11:39
Lib Dems 'secretly' met with Labour over weekend.

So what exactly are Lib Dems trying achieve here? If there is a snap election they will get wiped out just for trying to hold the country to ransom.

Its simple. If they are okay with Cnservative coalition just put the terms on the table. Take it or leave it.

Why keep meeting both Lab and Cons ? :eyes

Churchill
10th May 2010, 11:50
Lib Dems 'secretly' met with Labour over weekend.

So what exactly are Lib Dems trying achieve here? If there is a snap election they will get wiped out just for trying to hold the country to ransom.

Its simple. If they are okay with Cnservative coalition just put the terms on the table. Take it or leave it.

Why keep meeting both Lab and Cons ? :eyes

Because Gordon is getting more and more desperate. He's offering the Lib-Dems more and more of what he can't deliver just to hold onto the PM role.

threaded
10th May 2010, 12:24
Because Gordon is getting more and more desperate. He's offering the Lib-Dems more and more of what he can't deliver just to hold onto the PM role.

I tell you, he'll offer them everything they want, only one non-negotiable: Gordon Brown gets to stay in #10.

Bright Spark
10th May 2010, 12:39
Because Gordon is getting more and more desperate. He's offering the Lib-Dems more and more of what he can't deliver just to hold onto the PM role.

desparate he certainly lives up to his second name and he'll certainly need to more :moon:licking
if he want to stay in number 10....

shaunbhoy
10th May 2010, 13:19
The most enjoyable aspect to all these ponderous machinations between Cameron and Clegg is the fact that it must be driving Gordon Brown absolutely insane. :banana:
Now he knows how WE feel. Kept out of the loop, with the only inevitable certainty being that you are going to get shafted at some stage.

The Wikir Man
10th May 2010, 18:40
I tell you, he'll offer them everything they want, only one non-negotiable: Gordon Brown gets to stay in #10.

:laugh

Ardesco
10th May 2010, 21:33
There's a clue in the name "Conservative and Unionist Party".
I agree that Scottish independence would give an big electoral advantage to the Conservatives in England, and since they can't get any support in Scotland they may go down this route. Yet they (as indeed are all the major parties) are still keen to keep Scotland in the union, which makes me suspect Scotland is still of great value to the United Kingdom.
Maybe whisky is the one export we can rely on?

North Sea Oil

HTH

Gonzo
11th May 2010, 00:14
Lib Dems 'secretly' met with Labour over weekend.

So what exactly are Lib Dems trying achieve here? If there is a snap election they will get wiped out just for trying to hold the country to ransom.

Its simple. If they are okay with Cnservative coalition just put the terms on the table. Take it or leave it.

Why keep meeting both Lab and Cons ? :eyesIt will be interesting to see what happens.

It is quite possible that this is just a little brinkmanship from the Libdems to get a better deal out of the Tories, like a contractor telling an agent that they are not going to sign a contract in order to get a better rate. ;)

But at the same time it does look like Mandelson is working hard on this so he must think they have a chance and he is no mug.