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MarillionFan
13th July 2010, 10:24
Union 'outraged' at head teacher £200,000 pay package



http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48338000/jpg/_48338355_markelms226.jpg Mr Elms runs a school of 400 pupils The £200,000 pay package of a primary school head teacher in south London has sparked outrage from trade unions.
Mark Elms, of Tidemill Primary School, Lewisham, received the money in basic salary, back-dated payments and bonuses for a special project.
The GMB union called the payment "outrageous", while the Nasuwt union said too many heads had inflated pay.
Education Secretary Michael Gove wants heads' pay to be capped at the PM's salary of £142,500.
But some parents speaking outside the school said he "deserved every penny".
The top of the pay scale for head teachers working in large London state schools is £109,000, but governors are allowed to offer more to get the right candidate.

Parent outside Tidemill Primary School: "I think he deserves it"

According to the GMB union, a total of 11 head teachers in London earn more than £150,000.
Mr Elms, who runs a school of 400 pupils, was paid a basic salary of £82,714 last year.
But he also received in the same year more than £100,000 - £51,957 of which was back-dated pay for 2008/09 - for work on the City Challenge programme introduced by Labour to tackle underachievement in disadvantaged areas.
He was also paid £10,000 in overtime for 2009-10, and a further £9,317 for overtime in 2008/09.
An Ofsted report described the head teacher's leadership as "outstanding".
Pay package


Basic pay - £82,714.37
City Challenge - £102,955.00 over two years
Out-of-hours work - £9,317
Arrears - £9,317
Should education be salary capped? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2010/07/should_there_be_a_salary_cap_i.html)
Ted Purcell, GMB public services officer, said: "It is outrageous that a head teacher in a local community school should earn more money than the prime minister.
"There is a complete lack of accountability when schools are opted out of local authority control.
"GMB want to see all schools being excellent local schools accountable to parents, the community and locally elected politicians."
The GMB represents support staff in schools which have much lower salary levels.

GMB want to see all schools being excellent local schools
Ted Purcell GMB public services officer
Chris Keates, Nasuwt general secretary, said it had been raising concerns for years about the lack of regulation and scrutiny of the pay of headteachers.
She said: "Whilst the majority have reasonable salaries and do not attempt to exploit the system, too many have secured inflated pay increases and benefits rubber stamped by governing bodies, double payments for doing other work outside their schools and 'bonuses' or 'overtime' which are not permitted under the national pay framework."
Lewisham Council said it had investigated the high pay levels set by the governing body of the school, and had issued them with "formal, confidential advice, which they are now considering".
Mick Brookes, general secretary of the National Association of Head Teachers, said it was irresponsible to conflate the head teacher's yearly salary with the extra payments he received for working on the special project.
Upper limit He added: "He's made a huge difference to his schools and his community so I would say, 'good luck to him'."
It is thought that about 100 head teachers in England earn more than £150,000, with a handful earning as much as £180,000.
However, with pay being set by school governing bodies, there are no records kept on how many heads earn above the top of their pay scale.
Last week, in a letter to Anne Wright, chairman of the School Teachers' Review Body (STRB), Mr Gove said teachers pay should increase this year by 2.3% in line with previous recommendations.
But he added that he wanted to add an "upper limit to leadership group remuneration" cappying discretionary pay at the level of the prime minister's basic salary.

gingerjedi
13th July 2010, 10:31
The Daily Mash - £270K HEADTEACHER RUBBING HIS DOCTOR'S NOSE IN IT (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/%C2%A3270k-headteacher-rubbing-his-doctor%27s-nose-in-it-201007132900/)

Pondlife
13th July 2010, 11:00
Also from the Mash (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/hang-on%2c-i%27ll-start-again%2c-says-gove-201007132902/)

Made me chuckle.

shaunbhoy
14th July 2010, 20:28
Mark Elms, of Tidemill Primary School, Lewisham, received the money in basic salary, back-dated payments and bonuses for a special project.


If he is working in Lewisham, then anything from "Cutlery Introduction" to "Hind legs, we can balance on them" could be considered a "Special Project".

:eyes

AtW
14th July 2010, 20:41
£200k would barely cover my efforts to educate CUK folk on subject of economics, business, computing and many others.

£2 mln would be much more appropriate amount, tax free also. :eyes

minestrone
14th July 2010, 20:56
£200k would barely cover my efforts to educate CUK folk on subject of economics, business, computing and many others.

£2 mln would be much more appropriate amount, tax free also. :eyes

Your soviet teachers got a loaf of bread every month and 1 pound of butter every week.

No feckin wonder you are so stupid.

Doggy Styles
14th July 2010, 21:03
If he is working in Lewisham, then anything from "Cutlery Introduction" to "Hind legs, we can balance on them" could be considered a "Special Project".

:eyesMy first school was around there, and one of my friends used to sh*t himself in class for the craic.

That head probably deserves every penny.

MarillionFan
14th July 2010, 21:17
My first school was around there, and one of my friends used to sh*t himself in class for the craic.

That head probably deserves every penny.

Sounds like your mate used to enjoy spending it.:nerd

AtW
14th July 2010, 21:28
Your soviet teachers got a loaf of bread every month and 1 pound of butter every week. No feckin wonder you are so stupid.

I remember the last years of Soviet Union - 1989-1990: they had special vouchers/stamps to get 1 kg of meat per month, 10 eggs per month, 1 kg of butter, 1 bottle of vodka - the queues were about as big as you now get in British Post Office :eyes

shaunbhoy
14th July 2010, 21:46
I remember the last years of Soviet Union - 1989-1990: they had special vouchers/stamps to get 1 kg of meat per month, 10 eggs per month, 1 kg of butter, 1 bottle of vodka - the queues were about as big as you now get in British Post Office :eyes

So remind us then, your family were allowed over here out of sympathy, or to remind us how lucky we are?

:laugh

AtW
14th July 2010, 21:47
So remind us then, your family were allowed over here out of sympathy, or to remind us how lucky we are? :laugh

My family is still in the Soviet Union :frown

MarillionFan
14th July 2010, 21:48
My family is still in the Soviet Union :frown

Is there such a place now?

Your name is really Alec and your from Bromsgrove. Come on, we're all friends here. Admit it.

shaunbhoy
14th July 2010, 21:51
My family is still in the Soviet Union :frown

Well chin up..............keep beavering away and one day we might let you go home to them.
I'll start a facebook appeal up along the lines of those spy exchanges. Maybe we could trade you in against a few sheafs of wheat??

:tongue

MarillionFan
14th July 2010, 21:53
Well chin up..............keep beavering away and one day we might let you go home to them.
I'll start a facebook appeal up along the lines of those spy exchanges. Maybe we could trade you in against a few sheafs of wheat??

:tongue

AtW has been spying for years. He has so far told his Moscow Masters all of the different colours & brands on knickers all of the women on his street wear.

He has also sent back some samples, but I believe he has kept the best for himself. :eek:

Doggy Styles
14th July 2010, 21:54
Is there such a place now?

Your name is really Alec and your from Bromsgrove. Come on, we're all friends here. Admit it.The accent in his posts is more Dudley. Or should I say 'Durdlay'.

shaunbhoy
14th July 2010, 21:56
Or should I say 'Durdlay'.

'Turdlay' more like!

:laugh

Spacecadet
14th July 2010, 22:16
Why is it that the PM's pay has suddenly become some sort of magic yard stick by which all other salaries should be measured?

Ofsted seem to think the guy is very good at what he does
The £100k for "special" projects was for work over 2 years and he was getting overtime + arrears.
If you average his income over the past 2 years he was probably getting 150k
If you average over the past 3 years and his next years expected income it'll probably average to £120k

Now that Labour and their cheque book are out of power he's even less likely to get any special payments in the future

AtW
14th July 2010, 22:25
AtW has been spying for years. He has so far told his Moscow Masters all of the different colours & brands on knickers all of the women on his street wear.

He has also sent back some samples, but I believe he has kept the best for himself. :eek:

:rollin:

Vintage MF! :yay:

fullyautomatix
15th July 2010, 09:29
Apparently the parents feel the sky high ridiculous salary is 'justified'. How much tax are they paying ? I bet they dont pay a penny as taxex.

doodab
15th July 2010, 10:01
Well, as he is salaried he would have paid quite a bit of tax on that, perhaps £60k.

As others have pointed out his pay for the year was actually about £92k including overtime, and an extra £50k for a special project, which in total is not much more than a c# contractor in the financial services sector would expect.

Is it any wonder the British education system fails to attract the brightest and best when this is the outcry that follows the revelation that someone who runs a whole school gets paid a bit more than a code monkey?

Doggy Styles
15th July 2010, 15:53
I suppose it is a bit rich to moan about the mediocrity of English state schools, then moan about the remuneration of someone who, against the odds given its location, runs an exceptionally good one.

What do the public actually want, magic?

shaunbhoy
15th July 2010, 16:02
What do the public actually want, magic?

Depends. How much does it cost?

doodab
15th July 2010, 16:10
What do the public actually want, magic?

Yes, that's it! An ipad for every child.