Vince Cable: Migrant cap is hurting economy

[Ignis Fatuus]

The government's cap on immigration has been "very damaging" to British industry by stopping companies hiring key staff, the business secretary, Vince Cable, said today.

The Department for Business has examples of companies which have reduced investment or relocated operations overseas because the cap prevents them accessing key staff, said Cable, who called for more "flexibility" on allowing skilled workers into the UK.

So quit opposing immigration of flexible (cheap) skilled (allegedly) workers. You wouldn't want to damage British industry, now would you?

[Ignis Fatuus]

Are Gamages still going then?

Can't think what you mean, young man.

[MrMark]

Let 'em ali in. The UK is tulip'ed already, may as well kill it off quickly as a kindness.

ps. was a genuine typo, but decided to leave it in...

[TestMangler]

Was on the news that we only let in the 'cleverest and brightest'.

That must be why my clientco is full of bobs wearing unmatched suit parts, (sometimes) matching trainers and who write code that fails testing at every opportunity. We wouldn't want to 'gamage' industry by putting a stop to that now, would we ?

[MrMark]

Was on the news that we only let in the 'cleverest and brightest'.

That must be why my clientco is full of bobs wearing unmatched suit parts, (sometimes) matching trainers and who write code that fails testing at every opportunity. We wouldn't want to 'gamage' industry by putting a stop to that now, would we ?

I remember that in the 90s, the sub-continent coders brought here were of a generally high standard. Nice to see that we've decided to make local folk (including myself) have a lot of leisure time, and release us from the strain of deciding what to do with our pay, by giving opportunities to the world's villages. I'm almost tempted to enrol for the GenuineAuthentic IRA!

[Mich the Tester]

Was on the news that we only let in the 'cleverest and brightest'.

That must be why my clientco is full of bobs wearing unmatched suit parts, (sometimes) matching trainers and who write code that fails testing at every opportunity...

Good news for testers.

[HairyArsedBloke]

I'm almost tempted to enrol for the GenuineAuthentic IRA!

Sadly, nothing will be done until it gets violent.

[MrMark]

Good news for testers.

Aye, every cloud has a silver lining. But I fear there's probably a growth in bob-testers too

[Mich the Tester]

Aye, every cloud has a silver lining. But I fear there's probably a growth in bob-testers too

Don´t worry. For every 100 cosmetic faults the Bobs report there are at least one or two major boo-boo superduper bugger-up, bust the bank, crash the electricity supply, pollute the water, block the emergency services and crash the train errors that it takes seriously highly educated professionals to find. OK, a few of those serious professionals might be Indian, but not the calibre that gets sent here on the cheap. Indian testing seems to consist of programming a test tool (with all the inherent programming errors), then repeating the same test 1000s of times. That's like minesweeping along the very same tracks every day; you won't find the mines that have been laid off your normal tracks but which will sink any ship that has to divert by 50 metres. The best testers don't just have training in test methodologies and a piece of paper that certifies them, but scientific education, may have training in subjects as diverse as forensic engineering and auditing and are often quite experienced in designing and building software to a good standard. The Indian testers, just like many testers in software companies, are mostly trainee programmers whose brains just don't work the way a tester's brain should work.

Thing is, clientcos have to bugger up big time at least once before they learn the lesson; once they learn the lesson, they hire someone good (and then put up all sorts of 'complaince' barriers that make it impossible for him to do his work).

As Red Adair said, 'if you think the professionals are expensive, wait until you see what it costs when you hire an amateur'.

[mrdonuts]

the uk already has access to a pool of 500million europeans. Surely there is enough talent there to fill any vacancies. OR is it just vince trying to satisfy his BOB relations ?