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Mich the Tester
6th October 2010, 09:18
New chap sharing my office today, as my testers have moved to another location.

Came in, introduced himself, stuck out a hand as you do, then as I clasped his hand his limp, rather clammy hand seemed to collapse like mush under my admittedly fairly firm grip.

Urrghh, I don´t like weak handshakes. Urrgh. Yuck.

Still, might turn out to be a nice bloke.

Saddo
6th October 2010, 09:22
One thing I have learnt at interview time is to use a firm handshake. I think that sets the scene for the following interview.

Other positive interview techniques include sitting forward in the chair, not crossing legs, not crossing arms, looking straight at the interviewer.

DimPrawn
6th October 2010, 09:25
One thing I have learnt at interview time is to use a firm handshake. I think that sets the scene for the following interview.

Other positive interview techniques include sitting forward in the chair, not crossing legs, not crossing arms, looking straight at the interviewer.

And be willing to accept £100/day.

Saddo
6th October 2010, 09:27
And be willing to accept £100/day.

Sorry, that doesn't form part of my interview strategy. And furthermore I can't see how offering yourself for crumbs can ever make you look good in the interview - looks more like they are buying someone who is worth diddly squat.

Now £100 an hour.....

SupremeSpod
6th October 2010, 09:32
One thing I have learnt at interview time is to use the pass-grip of a Master Freemason. I think that sets the scene for the following interview.

ftfy. :devil

Mich the Tester
6th October 2010, 09:36
Sorry, that doesn't form part of my interview strategy. And furthermore I can't see how offering yourself for crumbs can ever make you look good in the interview - looks more like they are buying someone who is worth diddly squat.

Now £100 an hour.....

WHS.

Also, sitting to the side of the interviewer at about a 90 degree angle can help in gaining agreement; sitting opposite each other is a confrontational position. Some interviewers make it impossible to do this, but where possible I take the seat which puts me in the 'agreement position'.

It's quite a well known diplomatic technique that I learnt when I did a contract at the Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs; succesful one-to-one negotiators sit around a low coffee table in informal seats, and at an oblique angle to the side of the other party. You can try this for yourself at home with your partner; sit opposite each other at dinner and then make some statement about how the garden should be arranged, knowing that it's not what your partner wants; he/she will disagree quite strongly. Suggest your idea while sitting in the living room at an angle and he/she will point out weaknesses or ask questions, which is more likely to get you both closer to what you want.

Boudica
6th October 2010, 09:36
Is that the one where you stick your fingers up each others' sleeves?

doesn't it feel a bit creepy? ;)

Troll
6th October 2010, 09:37
I thought we'd agreed a common Contractors approach of grasping only the index and middle finger of the outstretched hand & shaking ...
a further refinement being the tickle of the palm (only to be used by Grand Master Contractors)

Boudica
6th October 2010, 09:39
there was a funny handshake thread once maybe

Troll
6th October 2010, 09:39
Is that the one where you stick your fingers up each others' sleeves?
Is that a euphemism ?

EternalOptimist
6th October 2010, 09:41
Oh jeez.
I had this big opportunity to break into IB. I researched my interviewer, a doctor of economics from Switzerland.
Practiced my handshake and my interview technique. How I would handle him, the job was mine.


This 25 year old blonde comes in, with her boobies half hanging out.

Those puppies kept staring at my eyes for the whole interview.

<cough> still waiting for my big break into IB



:rolleyes:

Mich the Tester
6th October 2010, 09:42
Is that a euphemism ?

No, that's a brass instrument somewhere between a trumpet and a tuba.

ps I know it isn't

Boudica
6th October 2010, 09:48
Is that a euphemism ?

ewwwwww :ladybags:

SupremeSpod
6th October 2010, 09:51
Is that the one where you stick your fingers up each others' sleeves?

doesn't it feel a bit creepy? ;)

Nope, remember I said "the pass-grip"... :wink

Pondlife
6th October 2010, 09:55
I tend to find a kiss on each cheek makes me stand out from the other guys.

SupremeSpod
6th October 2010, 09:59
I tend to find a kiss on each cheek makes me stand out from the other guys.

Which cheeks?

That just marks you down as a potential brown-noser. :p

Saddo
6th October 2010, 09:59
I tend to find a kiss on each cheek makes me stand out from the other guys.

Yeah, but that only works if you can persuade the interviewer to bend over in front of you.

Drewster
6th October 2010, 10:10
Urrghh, I don´t like weak handshakes. Urrgh. Yuck.

Eeeeewwwuuuuck!!! Amazingly its the type of handshake you fear you will get from a strange assortment of different characters.
MF or Gimpy as a couple of extreme examples!


Still, might turn out to be a nice bloke.

Unlikely.... see above!

Jeebo72
6th October 2010, 10:50
WHS.

Also, sitting to the side of the interviewer at about a 90 degree angle can help in gaining agreement; sitting opposite each other is a confrontational position. Some interviewers make it impossible to do this, but where possible I take the seat which puts me in the 'agreement position'.

It's quite a well known diplomatic technique that I learnt when I did a contract at the Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs; succesful one-to-one negotiators sit around a low coffee table in informal seats, and at an oblique angle to the side of the other party. You can try this for yourself at home with your partner; sit opposite each other at dinner and then make some statement about how the garden should be arranged, knowing that it's not what your partner wants; he/she will disagree quite strongly. Suggest your idea while sitting in the living room at an angle and he/she will point out weaknesses or ask questions, which is more likely to get you both closer to what you want.

I tried this, made a few suggestions to the wife, and it does indeed work. She's leaving tomorrow. Job done.

MarillionFan
6th October 2010, 10:59
Eeeeewwwuuuuck!!! Amazingly its the type of handshake you fear you will get from a strange assortment of different characters.
MF or Gimpy as a couple of extreme examples!



Unlikely.... see above!

I don't have a weak handshake.

I prefer to stamp out who's boss in the interview from the off. I go in and great them like Vinny Jones greeting Paul Gascoigne.

Boudica
6th October 2010, 11:04
I don't have a weak handshake.

I prefer to stamp out who's boss in the interview from the off. I go in and great them like Vinny Jones greeting Paul Gascoigne.

nope. still doesn't explain your brain damage

Bagpuss
6th October 2010, 11:08
there was a funny handshake thread once maybe

Isn't it about time you came clean and told everyone who you are?

SupremeSpod
6th October 2010, 11:09
Isn't it about time you came clean and told everyone who you are?

Nah mate, it isn't Lucy.

MarillionFan
6th October 2010, 11:11
Nah mate, it isn't Lucy.

I agree. It's some fella though.

d000hg
6th October 2010, 11:11
Handshake strength seems to be cultural as well. I'm sure in some countries a firm handshake is considered rude and overly physical.

the song perfect 10
6th October 2010, 11:28
The worst handshake is when they slide their hand across your palm as you pull away from the shake.

Troll
6th October 2010, 11:53
The worst handshake is when they slide their hand across your palm as you pull away from the shake.....and tickle??
If you knew, then you would know

hyperD
6th October 2010, 13:34
The worst handshake is when they slide their hand across your palm as you pull away from the shake.

The worst surely is when you see people shake hands and then one person unconsciously wipes their hand on their trouser leg. Not me though - I have a pocket full of silica gel for just those occasions.

Doggy Styles
6th October 2010, 14:49
A new Finnish girl started in the office today. She has a very firm handshake. I nearly took her on.

Mich the Tester
6th October 2010, 15:58
There's a Norwegian lady working here.


I don't know what her handshake is like but certain assets are extremely firm :tongue:pYou're into shemales are you?

d000hg
6th October 2010, 16:10
Oh jeez.
I had this big opportunity to break into IB. I researched my interviewer, a doctor of economics from Switzerland.
Practiced my handshake and my interview technique. How I would handle him, the job was mine.


This 25 year old blonde comes in, with her boobies half hanging out.

Those puppies kept staring at my eyes for the whole interview.

<cough> still waiting for my big break into IB

:rolleyes:


TheDailyWTF (http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/IBM-Survivor,-The-High-Road,--Find-the-Function!.aspx)
Many years back, I was a hot-shot contract developer in my early twenties, looking for a new gig in London. I was called to an interview at company that built hotel management software and, since I already knew a great deal about hotel software, it seemed like a great fit.

The interviewer was blonde, in her late 20’s, and had an impressive bust that was barely constrained by her buttoned blouse. She’d clearly put on a few pounds, but hadn’t admitted it to the extent of buying newer clothes. As a guy in your early 20’s, you tend to notice that kind of thing.

The interview was progressing pretty normally when, all of a sudden, one of her buttons came undone. I forced myself to focus on her questions and, for a short while, answered them impeccably. And then a second button came undone. That completely threw me off and my mind raced about, trying to figure out what to do.

Should I tell her? She’d probably be a little embarrassed, but certainly she’d appreciate the heads up. And at the very least, she’d not have to go through an entire interview unbuttoned.

Should I ignore it? At some point, she’d realize that her blouse came undone, and would think that I was a pervert for not telling her.

Both options put the contract at risk, but clearly, the high road was letting her know. I cleared my throat and subtly gestured towards her chest. She looked at me strangely for a moment, and then looked down. Instantaneously, she clutched her blouse, blushed red, and fled the room.

As I sat alone in the conference room for the next few minutes, I wondered if there was a third option that I didn’t consider. Eventually, the interviewer came back, but this time, she was wearing a sweater on top of her blouse. Without even sitting down, she told me that the interview was over and that they had all they needed to know. And although I didn’t get the job, I did learn a valuable lesson: just ignore it next time. :)

Old Greg
6th October 2010, 17:05
:)

I've been practising the limp handshake. It's particularly effective when you're interviewing on behalf of the client. Gets people to show what they're made of.

Tingles
6th October 2010, 19:38
WHS.

Also, sitting to the side of the interviewer at about a 90 degree angle can help in gaining agreement; sitting opposite each other is a confrontational position. Some interviewers make it impossible to do this, but where possible I take the seat which puts me in the 'agreement position'.

It's quite a well known diplomatic technique that I learnt when I did a contract at the Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs; succesful one-to-one negotiators sit around a low coffee table in informal seats, and at an oblique angle to the side of the other party. You can try this for yourself at home with your partner; sit opposite each other at dinner and then make some statement about how the garden should be arranged, knowing that it's not what your partner wants; he/she will disagree quite strongly. Suggest your idea while sitting in the living room at an angle and he/she will point out weaknesses or ask questions, which is more likely to get you both closer to what you want.



I always try to seat myself at the 'head' of the table if possible - seems to work, when I get the chance. I tried the strategy during a business game at Uni a few weeks ago too - worked there. Another person on the opposite team did the same in their 'game' also won.

EternalOptimist
6th October 2010, 19:45
:)

well thats great advice. just hope she ignores my 12 inch boner busting down my trouser leg when I stand up



:rolleyes:

Saddo
7th October 2010, 07:52
well thats great advice. just hope she ignores my 12 inch boner busting down my trouser leg when I stand up

She probably would, as a rule.

Xenophon
7th October 2010, 10:31
well thats great advice. just hope she ignores my 12 inch boner busting down my trouser leg when I stand up

If you're gonna have a cross to bear, make it a 12 inch boner, that's what I say.