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HMS Ark Royal to be scrapped ASAP

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    HMS Ark Royal to be scrapped ASAP

    To help pay for the new carriers.

    Reduction in Harrier numbers. Gap before JSF comes online is acceptable.

    Tornado lifetimes to be extended

    #2
    Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
    To help pay for the new carriers.

    Reduction in Harrier numbers. Gap before JSF comes online is acceptable.

    Tornado lifetimes to be extended
    Feck I now feel old, I remember the last Ark Royal and I'm only 39.

    Can you land a Tornado on a small aircraft carrier?
    Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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      #3
      Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
      Feck I now feel old, I remember the last Ark Royal and I'm only 39.

      Can you land a Tornado on a small aircraft carrier?
      Nope I can't. But we know a man with a penchant for pasta who can.

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        #4
        Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
        To help pay for the new carriers.

        Reduction in Harrier numbers. Gap before JSF comes online is acceptable.

        Tornado lifetimes to be extended
        I hope the Argies aren't listening....
        How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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          #5
          Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
          Feck I now feel old, I remember the last Ark Royal and I'm only 39.

          Can you land a Tornado on a small aircraft carrier?
          nope , the harrier is VTOL, vertical take off and landing
          the Tornado is HTTP , home to Turin with Pasta



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            #6
            The BBC has also learned that at least one of the new carriers will be redesigned so that it can deploy normal fighter aircraft that do not need a Harrier-style vertical lift capability.
            Scaffolding and gaffa tape on one of 'em then.
            Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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              #7
              Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
              Scaffolding and gaffa tape on one of 'em then.
              Steam catapult?

              Strong elastic band?

              Btw, are these new carriers Nukes or Gas turbine?

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                #8
                Cost $4.5 billion ( £2.84 billion) each
                General characteristics
                Type: Aircraft carrier
                Displacement: 100,000 to 104,600 long tons (100,000–106,300 t)[1]
                Length: Overall: 1,092 feet (332.8 m)
                Waterline: 1,040 feet (317.0 m)
                Beam: Overall: 252 ft (76.8 m)
                Waterline: 134 ft (40.8 m)
                Draft: Maximum navigational: 37 ft (11.3 m)
                Limit: 41 ft (12.5 m)
                Propulsion: 2 × Westinghouse A4W nuclear reactors
                4 × steam turbines
                4 × shafts
                260,000 shp (194 MW)
                Speed: 30+ knots (56+ km/h; 35+ mph)
                Range: Essentially unlimited distance; 20 years
                Complement: Ship's company: 3,200
                Air wing: 2,480
                Sensors and
                processing systems: AN/SPS-48E 3-D air search radar
                AN/SPS-49(V)5 2-D air search radar
                AN/SPQ-9B target acquisition radar
                AN/SPN-46 air traffic control radars
                AN/SPN-43C air traffic control radar
                AN/SPN-41 landing aid radars
                4 × Mk 91 NSSM guidance systems
                4 × Mk 95 radars
                Electronic warfare
                and decoys: SLQ-32A(V)4 Countermeasures suite
                SLQ-25A Nixie torpedo countermeasures
                Armament: 16–24 × Sea Sparrow or NATO Sea Sparrow missiles
                3 or 4 × Phalanx CIWSs or RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missiles

                Armor: 2.5 in (64 mm) kevlar over vital spaces[2]
                Aircraft carried: 85-90 fixed wing and helicopters[3]

                & for £3.8 ($6.02) billion & rising we get two of
                Class and type: Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carrier
                Displacement: 65,600 metric tons (72,300 short tons) (full load)[2]
                Length: 284 metres (932 ft)[2]
                Beam: 39 metres (waterline)
                73 metres overall[2]
                Draught: 11 metres[3]
                Decks: 16,000 square metres[2]
                Speed: 25+ knots
                Range: 10,000 nautical miles (18,520 km)
                Capacity: 1,450
                Complement: 600
                Aircraft carried: 40 aircraft, including 36 F-35 Lightning II

                MOD didn't want the nuclear propulsion due to the extra costs!!

                Since we are having to import foreign workers to do the build why not just buy two Nimitz class ?
                How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
                  Steam catapult?

                  Strong elastic band?

                  Btw, are these new carriers Nukes or Gas turbine?
                  steam catapult is passe... latest yank carriers will use Electromagnetic gubbins to launch planes
                  How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Troll View Post
                    steam catapult is passe... latest yank carriers will use Electromagnetic gubbins to launch planes
                    If it works. Interesting articles on el reg over the last month or so. Using catapults / arresters makes the f35 variant much cheaper.
                    ‎"See, you think I give a tulip. Wrong. In fact, while you talk, I'm thinking; How can I give less of a tulip? That's why I look interested."

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