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kandr
25th October 2010, 09:00
I have a long commute every day and I have been trying various things to relieve the boredom, including using my phone to surf the web (but the signal keeps disappearing), reading a book etc. I think reading a decent newspaper is the key, but which one? I tried the Times, but its a bit to right wing.

Any suggestions?

bingobob
25th October 2010, 09:14
I have a long commute every day and I have been trying various things to relieve the boredom, including using my phone to surf the web (but the signal keeps disappearing), reading a book etc. I think reading a decent newspaper is the key, but which one? I tried the Times, but its a bit to right wing.

Any suggestions?

Perhaps you could try a different newspaper everyday for a week or so and then decide which one you like the best and stick with that. Just a suggestion.

GreenLabel
25th October 2010, 09:14
I have a long commute every day and I have been trying various things to relieve the boredom, including using my phone to surf the web (but the signal keeps disappearing), reading a book etc. I think reading a decent newspaper is the key, but which one? I tried the Times, but its a bit to right wing.

Any suggestions?

Lefties should stick to The Guardian.

kandr
25th October 2010, 09:17
Lefties should stick to The Guardian.

I think I will give it a try, after reading the Times today and giving some racist thug a two page spread, it put me off.

Spacecadet
25th October 2010, 09:37
get a kindle

kandr
25th October 2010, 09:41
get a kindle

I'm not a big book reader, I only read books to educate myself .

filthy1980
25th October 2010, 09:41
newspapers are propognada fueled nonesene

audio books are the answer mate

Mich the Tester
25th October 2010, 09:43
newspapers are propognada fueled nonesene



U is a grauniad reder then?

EternalOptimist
25th October 2010, 09:45
I think I will give it a try, after reading the Times today and giving some racist thug a two page spread, it put me off.

Wrong!
You should read a rag that holds the opposite philosophy in order to exercise and stretch your noggin. If you read the guardian, it will only reinforce your already entrenched world view. If you are a left wing, tree hugging, lentil muncher, a beeding heart namby pamby wishy washy airy fairy hand wringing fckwit, you should read the daily mail. Its called balance, ying and yang.
For example, if you are incredibly clever and witty, you should come here and debate with SasGuru.



:rolleyes:

kandr
25th October 2010, 09:53
Wrong!
You should read a rag that holds the opposite philosophy in order to exercise and stretch your noggin. If you read the guardian, it will only reinforce your already entrenched world view. If you are a left wing, tree hugging, lentil muncher, a beeding heart namby pamby wishy washy airy fairy hand wringing fckwit, you should read the daily mail. Its called balance, ying and yang.
For example, if you are incredibly clever and witty, you should come here and debate with SasGuru.



:rolleyes:

So the right-wing, nazi racists, fascists, thick, bible thumpers corrupt, dumb as feck should watch the bbc and read the Guardian? Rather than watching Sky News and drinking the seed of Murdoch.

SupremeSpod
25th October 2010, 09:59
I have a long commute every day and I have been trying various things to relieve the boredom, including using my phone to surf the web (but the signal keeps disappearing), reading a book etc. I think reading a decent newspaper is the key, but which one? I tried the Times, but its a bit to right wing.

Any suggestions?

"The C Programming Language" by Kernighan & Ritchie. :wink

EternalOptimist
25th October 2010, 10:00
So the right-wing, nazi racists, fascists, thick, bible thumpers corrupt, dumb as feck should watch the bbc and read the Guardian? Rather than watching Sky News and drinking the seed of Murdoch.

Jawohl, mein little leibling. you get ze picture



:rolleyes:

kandr
25th October 2010, 10:01
"The C Programming Language" by Kernighan & Ritchie. :wink

I have read it, excellent book, excellent language. Better than the current crop of bloated shit.

filthy1980
25th October 2010, 10:02
U is a grauniad reder then?

imdeeb

EternalOptimist
25th October 2010, 10:03
imdeeb

very witty, 9 out of ten for that one


:rolleyes:

Mich the Tester
25th October 2010, 10:03
Readers Wives?

NotAllThere
25th October 2010, 10:07
So the right-wing, nazi racists, fascists, thick, bible thumpers corrupt, dumb as feck should watch the bbc and read the Guardian? Rather than watching Sky News and drinking the seed of Murdoch.Well, I certainly do. It gives me great ammunition against the sandle-wearing, bleeding-heart, wouldn't it be nice if everyone was nice, tree-hugging, hippy, wishy-washy liberals. Although I need help with the longer words, obviously.


I think I will give it a try, after reading the Times today and giving some racist thug a two page spread, it put me off.

Did you read the article, and then the opinion piece by Jon Cruddas? Seems to me that the article is warning of a serious danger from the "racist thug". Who, while violently anti-islamic, does not appear to be racist in the sense of being anti-immigration, anti-semitic, send 'em all back to where they came from of the like of the usual BNP.

kandr
25th October 2010, 10:18
Well, I certainly do. It gives me great ammunition against the sandle-wearing, bleeding-heart, wouldn't it be nice if everyone was nice, tree-hugging, hippy, wishy-washy liberals. Although I need help with the longer words, obviously.



Did you read the article, and then the opinion piece by Jon Cruddas? Seems to me that the article is warning of a serious danger from the "racist thug". Who, while violently anti-islamic, does not appear to be racist in the sense of being anti-immigration, anti-semitic, send 'em all back to where they came from of the like of the usual BNP.

They guy belongs in Prison from what I read he had already been there and will probably end up there when he kills some poor innocent Muslim shopkeeper.

Ignis Fatuus
25th October 2010, 10:20
Wrong!
You should read a rag that holds the opposite philosophy in order to exercise and stretch your noggin. If you read the guardian, it will only reinforce your already entrenched world view. If you are a left wing, tree hugging, lentil muncher, a beeding heart namby pamby wishy washy airy fairy hand wringing fckwit, you should read the daily mail. Its called balance, ying and yang.
Aargh! Not the Daily Heil!

I'm a left wing, tree hugging, lentil muncher, a beeding heart namby pamby wishy washy airy fairy hand wringing fckwit. Can I get away with reading the Telegraph? A damn fine bourgeois running dog Tory rag IMHO.

Ignis Fatuus
25th October 2010, 10:22
"The C Programming Language" by Kernighan & Ritchie. :wink

I have read it, excellent book, excellent language. Better than the current crop of bloated tulip.I think I can quote from memory: all the examples have been tested directly from the text, which is in machine readable form.

Testing? Testing? What author does that now, surely just pontificating is enough?

EternalOptimist
25th October 2010, 10:23
Aargh! Not the Daily Heil!

I'm a left wing, tree hugging, lentil muncher, a beeding heart namby pamby wishy washy airy fairy hand wringing fckwit. Can I get away with reading the Telegraph? A damn fine bourgeois running dog Tory rag IMHO.


ok, the telegraph for you,
only because you are arty farty as well



:rolleyes:

norrahe
25th October 2010, 10:24
ok, the telegraph for you,
only because you are arty farty as well



:rolleyes:

Torygraph is a bitch to read on the train though :grin

d000hg
25th October 2010, 10:27
get a kindle


I'm not a big book reader, I only read books to educate myself .You can get newspaper (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Newspapers-Kindle/b/ref=sv_kinc_2?ie=UTF8&node=341691031) and magazine (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magazines-Journals-Kindle/b/ref=sv_kinc_4?ie=UTF8&node=341690031) and blog (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blogs-Kindle-Sports-Industry-Internet-Technology/b/ref=sv_kinc_3?ie=UTF8&node=341688031) subscriptions on the Kindle (not sure why you'd pay for a blog?) as well as use it for simple web-browsing (like news sites) when you've got a signal.

Is £10/month for a Kindle newspaper subscription considerably different than buying it in paper, what do papers cost these days?


All Kindle Newspaper subscriptions start with a 14-day free trial. You can cancel at any time during the trial period. If you enjoy your subscription, do nothing and it will automatically continue at the regular price. If you cancel at any time after the trial period, you will pay only for the items you've already received.

kandr
25th October 2010, 10:30
You can get newspaper (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Newspapers-Kindle/b/ref=sv_kinc_2?ie=UTF8&node=341691031) and magazine (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magazines-Journals-Kindle/b/ref=sv_kinc_4?ie=UTF8&node=341690031) and blog (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blogs-Kindle-Sports-Industry-Internet-Technology/b/ref=sv_kinc_3?ie=UTF8&node=341688031) subscriptions on the Kindle (not sure why you'd pay for a blog?) as well as use it for simple web-browsing (like news sites) when you've got a signal.

Is £10/month for a Kindle newspaper subscription considerably different than buying it in paper, what do papers cost these days?

Its a quid for the Times, so its actually cheaper to get the kindle sub, might try it out, but trying to convince the missus will be hard, as I just bought a new PC and an Ipad a few months ago.

Lockhouse
25th October 2010, 10:41
I buy The Telegraph every day on the way to work as it's the paper best designed not to elevate my blood pressure. I also do the crosswords and sudokus. I'm on the train an hour and I have just enough time to read the paper and finish the crosswords before I get to Waterloo

The Times is too left wing for me but they have the best crosswords, sudokus etc. I have to buy The Times sometimes as The Telegraph is often delivered to the station late.

The Guardian is read by fools and all the other papers (Mail, Sun etc) are no better than comics.

I have a Kindle that I use to read books on the way home.

It's an exciting, rip-roaring life being a commuter. I feel all Wilmslowed now.

kandr
25th October 2010, 10:45
I buy The Telegraph every day on the way to work as it's the paper best designed not to elevate my blood pressure. I also do the crosswords and sudokus. I'm on the train an hour and I have just enough time to read the paper and finish the crosswords before I get to Waterloo

The Times is too left wing for me but they have the best crosswords, sudokus etc. I have to buy The Times sometimes as The Telegraph is often delivered to the station late.

The Guardian is read by fools and all the other papers (Mail, Sun etc) are no better than comics.

I have a Kindle that I use to read books on the way home.

It's an exciting, rip-roaring life being a commuter. I feel all Wilmslowed now.

Ill try the Telegraph tomorrow.

The_Equalizer
25th October 2010, 11:01
I was thinking about buying a Kindle what with probably having to return to the smoke for a gig (boo hiss). It seems that you might just be able to swat up on technologies without having to carrying round a hundred weight text book. While researching it I noted that the Kindle newspaper editions are receiving poor reviews, the Telegraph in particular.

For what it is worth (very little) I always have a read of the Telegraph online in the morning, followed by a quick look at the Guardian for a bit of 'balance' and then find myself re-reading the Telegraph to make me feel better. Do note that Polly Toynbee articles should be avoided at all costs.

RichardCranium
25th October 2010, 11:09
When I was commuting into Leeds, I used to choose reading material just to see the effect on the crumblies & students with whom I shared the bus.

Books on communism got respect from the students but not the crumblies.

Reading The Socialist Worker had the opposite effect.

Reading Viz got me looks of dismay from both groups.

I never had the bottle to sit there and pretend to read Pravda or some other foreign-language paper for fear of the person opposite leaning over and saying "Hey, Chumski. Vot is it you see so interesting in the gay adz today?"

Pogle
25th October 2010, 11:38
When I was last in London and commuting on the tube <shudder> I had my Sony e reader and was reading Darwins 'On the Origin of Species'. Its actually quite interesting, but I'm only about half way through. i need another contract down in London to finish it off! Don't think that'll happen for a while though :D

kandr
25th October 2010, 11:48
When I was last in London and commuting on the tube <shudder> I had my Sony e reader and was reading Darwins 'On the Origin of Species'. Its actually quite interesting, but I'm only about half way through. i need another contract down in London to finish it off! Don't think that'll happen for a while though :D

The ending is quite good, the monkeys become humans.

Mich the Tester
25th October 2010, 11:50
The ending is quite good, the monkeys become humans.

I'm waiting for Origin of Species II; the Sequel.

That's where the humans become monkeys.


<pedant alert>
Anyway I think you meant 'Descent of Man'.
</pedant alert>

kandr
25th October 2010, 11:52
I'm waiting for Origin of Species II; the Sequel.

That's where the humans become monkeys.


<pedant alert>
Anyway I think you meant 'Descent of Man'.
</pedant alert>

I haven't read either so you are probably right.

Ignis Fatuus
25th October 2010, 12:15
When I was last in London and commuting on the tube <shudder> I had my Sony e reader and was reading Darwins 'On the Origin of Species'. Its actually quite interesting, but I'm only about half way through. i need another contract down in London to finish it off! Don't think that'll happen for a while though :DFascinating when you reflact that Darwin didn't have genetics to give him an obvious mechanism for evolution.

northernladuk
25th October 2010, 12:22
I think the OP should be looking at something like Beano or something that is at a more appropriate level.

kandr
25th October 2010, 12:34
I think the OP should be looking at something like Beano or something that is at a more appropriate level.

Uncalled for.

RichardCranium
25th October 2010, 12:42
Uncalled for.Well, you don't like wordy newspapers, you don't like reading books, you don't want to spend a pound a day.

How about some crayons and a bumper colouring book? :tongue

kandr
25th October 2010, 12:54
Well, you don't like wordy newspapers, you don't like reading books, you don't want to spend a pound a day.

How about some crayons and a bumper colouring book? :tongue

I said I didn't like the Times because of the article, and I said I don't like reading books unless I learn something from them (i.e. technical books), just because I don't want to read Gok Wan or Cheryl Cole's latest Autobiography, like you guys do, doesn't mean im dumb, in fact the opposite.

NotAllThere
25th October 2010, 12:56
I said I didn't like the Times because of the article,...Which he clearly didn't read - nor the opinion piece.


Aargh! Not the Daily Heil!

I'm a left wing, tree hugging, lentil muncher, a beeding heart namby pamby wishy washy airy fairy hand wringing fckwit. Can I get away with reading the Telegraph? A damn fine bourgeois running dog Tory rag IMHO.
As you're a lentil muncher, you are permitted the Torygraph.

ok, the telegraph for you,
only because you are arty farty as wellThat'll be those lentils.


I buy The Telegraph every day...The Times is too left wing for me...The Guardian is read by fools and all the other papers (Mail, Sun etc) are no better than comics...And the Independant? (Does it exist any more?).

Hacker: Don't tell me about the press. I know exactly who reads the papers:

The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country;
The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country;
The Times is read by the people who actually do run the country;
The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country;
The Financial Times is read by people who own the country;
The Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country;
And The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.
Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about the people who read The Sun?
Bernard: Sun readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits.

cailin maith
25th October 2010, 13:18
The ending is quite good, the monkeys become humans.

:laugh

sasguru
25th October 2010, 13:20
I said I didn't like the Times because of the article, and I said I don't like reading books unless I learn something from them (i.e. technical books), just because I don't want to read Gok Wan or Cheryl Cole's latest Autobiography, like you guys do, doesn't mean im dumb, in fact the opposite.

No I think you're very dumb, cretinous in fact, since you don't seem to think that you can learn anything from serious literature.
I recommend Viz for someone at your intellectual level.

HTH

RichardCranium
25th October 2010, 13:20
I have a long commute every day and I have been trying various things to relieve the boredom. Any suggestions?

I had nearly forgotten about this (http://www.urban75.org/useless/bored.html#nothing):


THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

Blink wildly and then close your eyes really tight for an interesting light show
(Amusement Potential: 1-5 minutes)
See a variety of blobs, stars and flashes. Try to make out shapes and see if your subconscious is trying to send you a message

See how long you can hold a note
(Amusement Potential: 4-20 minutes)
Not that much fun, but it sure passes the time. Play with a friend, or try to beat your own personal best. Inhale deeply and then try and make a noise for as long as you can. Earn extra points for making your partner laugh or ending on an amusing note.

Try to not think about penguins
(Amusement Potential: 1-5 minutes)
This is especially hard, because by trying too much, you remember what you were trying to avoid thinking of. If you try too little, you end up thinking about penguins anyway.

Use your secret mind power
(Amusement Potential: 5-10 minutes)
Pick a passing by and try to use your mind power to command them do something, like drop their bag or knock into someone. The law of averages dictates that sooner or later one of your mind commands will come true, so you can convince yourself that you really have super human powers and waste even more time trying them out.

Scratch yourself
(Amusement Potential: 1-3 minutes)
Go ahead, scratch yourself now. Even if nothing itches, go ahead. Doesn't that feel pretty good?

Rate passers by
(Amusement Potential: 10-15 minutes)
Secretly award passers by marks out of ten as you go along, offering (unsaid) expert criticism over their clothing, hairstyle and footwear choices.

Repeat the same word over and over until it loses its meaning
(Amusement Potential: 1-3 minutes)
Pick a random word out of a magazine and say it aloud to yourself until it becomes a meaningless set of noises.

Pinch yourself
(Amusement Potential: 1-3 minutes)
What is pain? Why is it unpleasant? There's nothing physical about it - it's all in your mind. Plus, after pinching yourself for awhile, boredom will seem nice next to being in pain.

Try to swallow your tongue
(Amusement Potential: 1-2 minutes)
There's not much to say about this one. It is possible, but really stupid.

Make Star Trek door noises
(Amusement Potential: 1-2 minutes)
Stand by an electric door to a bank or something and make that silly "Scccccccchwop" sound heard whenever people popped on to the bridge to hang with Captain Kirk.

Look at something for awhile, shut eyes, study after image
(Amusement Potential: 2-5 minutes)
Another great time waster. It takes about 30 seconds of staring to create an after image, and the image is then viewable for about the same length of time. Fun to combine this one with pushing on your eyes.

Get yourself as nauseated as possible
(Amusement Potential: 5-10 minutes)
Best achieved by looking straight up and spinning around. Try to be so dizzy you can't even stand up. This is also entertaining due to the "makes boredom seem a lot better" effect (see "Hurt Yourself").

Invent a weird twitch
(Amusement Potential: 5-10 minutes)
Adopt a bizarre twitch (e.g. flicking your head irregularly, twitching with eye or busting out sporadic cough noises) and try it out.

Make a low buzzing noise
(Amusement Potential: 15-30 minutes)
Keeping a totally straight face and looking nonchalant, make a low pitch humming/buzzing noise and see who reacts.

cailin maith
25th October 2010, 13:26
No I think you're very dumb, cretinous in fact, since you don't seem to think that you can learn anything from serious literature.
I recommend Viz for someone at your intellectual level.

HTH

Sas, everyone is cretinous as far as you are concerned.

RichardCranium
25th October 2010, 13:26
I recommend Viz for someone at your intellectual level.I disagree. I find Viz is the only remaining periodical with up-to-date political satire and scathing editorial pieces, albeit disguised as pseudo-journalism.

Mind you, this issue's Barber Papua with his knob-gourd might be pitched about right. :eyes

sasguru
25th October 2010, 13:27
Sas, everyone is cretinous as far as you are concerned.

Yes they are. And usually moronic to boot.:wink

kandr
25th October 2010, 13:34
No I think you're very dumb, cretinous in fact, since you don't seem to think that you can learn anything from serious literature.
I recommend Viz for someone at your intellectual level.

HTH

Hahaha, I bet your bookshelf looks like the ASDA book isle...serious literature??!!, first time iv'e heard Cheryl Coles AB described as serious literature. What a moron.

sasguru
25th October 2010, 13:41
Hahaha, I bet your bookshelf looks like the ASDA book isle...serious literature??!!, first time iv'e heard Cheryl Coles AB described as serious literature. What a moron.

God you really are thick as 4 slab-sided planks stuck together aren't you?

kandr
25th October 2010, 13:45
God you really are thick as 4 slab-sided planks stuck together aren't you?

No not at all, but it's clear you are. Lets leave it at that.

sasguru
25th October 2010, 13:52
No not at all, .

Oh no you are. Really. Like a lot of thick people, though, you have no frame of reference on which to judge and therefore assume you are not.

HTH

kandr
25th October 2010, 13:55
Oh no you are. Really. Like a lot of thick people, though, you have no frame of reference on which to judge and therefore assume you are not.

HTH

My Doctorate says otherwise. Im a Doctor.

sasguru
25th October 2010, 13:57
My Nobel Prize says otherwise.

:suicide:
The quality of the recent sockies is piss poor.

SupremeSpod
25th October 2010, 14:09
My Doctorate says otherwise. Im a Doctor.

You're no man of letters, that's for sure.

kandr
25th October 2010, 14:13
You're no man of letters, that's for sure.

I bet I have an education you could only dream of, although Im sure you are proud of your Diploma in Media Studies.

sasguru
25th October 2010, 14:15
I bet I have an education you could only dream of, although Im sure you are proud of your Diploma in Media Studies.

0/10. Piss poor. Please try harder

SupremeSpod
25th October 2010, 14:17
I bet I have an education you could only dream of, although Im sure you are proud of your Diploma in Media Studies.

Are you on drugs? You've got a "Doctorate"? FFS, so had the Rev. Ian Paisley!

minestrone
25th October 2010, 14:18
I read just about every Graham Greene novel the first year I had to commute to Edinburgh. From the turgid 'The Man Within' to my favourite novel 'The Human Factor'.

sasguru
25th October 2010, 14:20
Are you on drugs? You've got a "Doctorate"? FFS, so had the Rev. Ian Paisley!

He doesn't. He edited that post. He originally claimed to have a Nobel prize.
He's a complete idiot.

kandr
25th October 2010, 14:21
Are you on drugs? You've got a "Doctorate"? FFS, so had the Rev. Ian Paisley!

Was his Honorary though? I don't have one I winding you all up.

SupremeSpod
25th October 2010, 14:21
He doesn't. He edited that post. He originally claimed to have a Nobel prize.
He's a complete idiot.

He's making you look like an amateur.

SupremeSpod
25th October 2010, 14:23
Was his Honorary though? I don't have one I winding you all up.

Courtesy of good old Bob Jones.

sasguru
25th October 2010, 14:25
I don't have one I winding you all up.

You are? Its news to me.
Although you are posting a load of :winker:
Are you a :winker: by any chance?

GreenLabel
25th October 2010, 14:26
... I don't have one...

Believe it or not, we figured that part out for ourselves.

kandr
25th October 2010, 14:29
Believe it or not, we figured that part out for ourselves.

Im sure you have......from the university of life...when you were a rent boy.

CheeseSlice
25th October 2010, 14:31
I have a long commute every day and I have been trying various things to relieve the boredom, including using my phone to surf the web (but the signal keeps disappearing), reading a book etc. I think reading a decent newspaper is the key, but which one? I tried the Times, but its a bit to right wing.

Any suggestions?

Whizzer and chips ?

Clippy
25th October 2010, 14:52
My Nobel Prize says otherwise.
http://rlv.zcache.com/nobel_prize_in_happy_meal_bumper_sticker-p12807126985777710583h9_325.jpg

:suicide:
The quality of the recent sockies is piss poor.

Well, it is half-term.

DS23
25th October 2010, 15:27
I'm not a big book reader, I only read books to educate myself .

and therein lies the problem

RichardCranium
25th October 2010, 16:54
My Doctorate says otherwise. Im a Doctor.Did you down your own apostrophectomy?

kandr
25th October 2010, 17:40
and therein lies the problem

I don't read crappy novels and celeb autobiographies. I read the odd novel like Crime and Punishment or Hunter S Thompson's books, but prefer reading educational books.

d000hg
25th October 2010, 21:12
I don't read crappy novels and celeb autobiographies. I read the odd novel like Crime and Punishment or Hunter S Thompson's books, but prefer reading educational books.What have you learnt recently in your literary travels?

DS23
26th October 2010, 08:32
I don't read crappy novels and celeb autobiographies. I read the odd novel like Crime and Punishment or Hunter S Thompson's books, but prefer reading educational books.

well that's all right then. but being a big book reader doesn't mean that you need to read "crappy novels and celeb autobiographies"

kandr
26th October 2010, 08:58
So this morning I opted for the Guardian. I enjoyed the read although its a bit of a slow news day, didn't get through it though as I was constructing an email for half the journey, so can't comment too much.

However one funny quote from the front page, about how British interrogators are using inhumane techniques, "they make them watch porn, from DVD's".