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DimPrawn
29th November 2010, 10:44
Global warming has slowed because of pollution - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/8159991/Global-warming-has-slowed-because-of-pollution.html)

But in a new report the Met Office said the reduced rate of warming can be easily explained by a number of factors. And indeed the true rate of warming caused by man made greenhouse gases could be greater than ever.

One of the major factors is pollution over Asia, where the huge growth in coal-fired power stations mean aerosols like sulphur are being pumped into the air. This reflects sunlight, cooling the land surface temperature.

Dr Vicky Pope, Head of Climate Change Advice, said pollution may be causing a cooling effect.

“A possible increase in aerosol emissions from Asia in the last decade may have contributed to substantially to the recent slowdown,” she said. “Aerosols cool the climate by reflecting the sunlight.”



So we can all have big V8 cars as long as Asia keeps building coal fired power stations to build the parts for them.

Sorted.

:rolleyes:

TimberWolf
29th November 2010, 10:46
November 2010 was the warmest in the UK on record

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TimberWolf
29th November 2010, 10:48
I heard on the news this morning that fossil fuel use worldwide is growing at 3% a year. That's exponential growth and that always ends badly and usually rather unexpectedly and suddenly. Keep breeding. Boomed.

Spacecadet
29th November 2010, 11:02
Another day another excuse as to why Global Warming isn't behaving as expected.

I'm sure Phil Jones Clarke will along in a few minutes to write a 1000 word response on why the models are still correct

d000hg
29th November 2010, 11:22
Another day another excuse as to why Global Warming isn't behaving as expected.The same could be said for physics for the last hundred years. The whole point of science is you don't make a theory and then leave it set in stone, you test it and if it doesn't behave as predicted you look to find why... maybe the idea is good but there are extra subtleties, maybe the whole thing doesn't fly.

Saying GW isn't happening simply because things don't match as expected is unscientific. It might not be, but it's a ferociously complicated many-value system.

DimPrawn
29th November 2010, 11:28
I wonder how Mark Diacono is getting on with his farm.

BBC NEWS | England | Devon | Warming spurs olive grove hopes (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/5118860.stm)

A Devon smallholder has planted an olive grove with the aim of cashing in on global warming.
Mark Diacono, 39, has planted 120 trees on his 17-acre plot near Honiton in east Devon.

He is also growing almonds, apricots and persimmon and even plans to experiment with exotic paw paw.

Mr Diacono aims to bring in his first olive oil within the next seven years but just in case, he has planted an olive species used to frost and snow.

Environmental consultant Mr Diacono said the olive grove was a way of taking advantage of the climate change which was taking place.

The UK Climate Impacts Programme has said by 2080 the south-east of England could become on average 5C warmer in summer.

BlasterBates
29th November 2010, 11:42
I'm very worried that the natural warming and cooling every 60 years will be interrupted by the effects of CO2, and we'll get static temperatures. This would be a disaster, causing dry areas to get drier, wet areas to get wetter, cold regions to become even colder and warm regions to get hotter.

doodab
29th November 2010, 13:12
The inside of your fridge is cold but the kitchen as a whole gets warmer.

My guess is that the UK is going to get very cold. On the plus side, the pension funding gap should go away and we might stop being shit at winter sports.

DimPrawn
29th November 2010, 14:00
What if these bearded sandal wearing "nutters" were right:

Global cooling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling)

Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere along with a posited commencement of glaciation.

And these iPad carrying, government funded "nutters" are also right:

Global warming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming)

Global warming is the increase in the average temperature of Earth's near-surface air and oceans since the mid-20th century and its projected continuation.


And the two are roughly cancelling each other out, except the mid lattitudes see more of the warming and the rest of us slip into a slow ice age.

Doggy Styles
29th November 2010, 14:10
The UK Climate Impacts Programme has said by 2080 the south-east of England could become on average 5C warmer in summer.There will be little left to burn by 2080.

Human population growth. That's the real problem facing the earth.

DimPrawn
29th November 2010, 14:12
There will be little left to burn by 2080.

Human population growth. That's the real problem facing the earth.

No it's not, it's people driving their cars in the SE of England. A few extra billion humans makes no odds.

doodab
29th November 2010, 14:15
I reckon the UK will start to have a climate more like Sweden. It already has the five quid beers, it's only a matter of time.

thunderlizard
29th November 2010, 14:35
Another day another excuse as to why Global Warming isn't behaving as expected.

Quite. A quick comparison with a spare unpopulated, "control" Earth would set things straight once and for all.

Spacecadet
29th November 2010, 14:42
Quite. A quick comparison with a spare unpopulated, "control" Earth would set things straight once and for all.

well there is Mars... wasn't there some evidence recently that our Martian neighbours have also been running round in 4x4's and causing warming there too?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1720024.ece

DimPrawn
29th November 2010, 14:44
well there is Mars... wasn't there some evidence recently that our Martian neighbours have also been running round in 4x4's and causing warming there too?

Climate change hits Mars - Times Online (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1720024.ece)

Mars is being hit by rapid climate change and it is happening so fast that the red planet could lose its southern ice cap, writes Jonathan Leake.

Scientists from Nasa say that Mars has warmed by about 0.5C since the 1970s. This is similar to the warming experienced on Earth over approximately the same period.

Since there is no known life on Mars it suggests rapid changes in planetary climates could be natural phenomena.

:eek:
Burn the heretics!

Doggy Styles
29th November 2010, 15:11
Mars is being hit by rapid climate change and it is happening so fast that the red planet could lose its southern ice cap, writes Jonathan Leake.

Scientists from Nasa say that Mars has warmed by about 0.5C since the 1970s. This is similar to the warming experienced on Earth over approximately the same period.

Since there is no known life on Mars it suggests rapid changes in planetary climates could be natural phenomena.Not relevant to the AGW argument. Earth has nothing in common with Mars.

Except the sun of course. Hang on...

VectraMan
29th November 2010, 15:58
I reckon the UK will start to have a climate more like Sweden. It already has the five quid beers, it's only a matter of time.

Will the number of blondes increase?

doodab
29th November 2010, 16:21
Will the number of blondes increase?

Yes, and they will all believe in free love and enjoy getting naked in the sauna. But they will expect you to take them to ikea regularly if it gets serious.