Oh dear: Boy raped teacher

**hattra** · 5 July 2005, 09:56

Jeremy Dein, QC, defending, said the teenager had come from an "emotionally fraught" family background and had been bullied at school and suffered from a misconduct disorder

"misconduct disorder" - On the news last night, they said that he had a record of sexual agression (indecent assault and attempted rape), and that this was known to the authorities. The school was never informed though, so they couldn't take any action to protect female members of staff.

When will the "authorities" get it? If somebody's dangerous - the best way to protect people is to let everybody around them know about it, then they can action to protect themselves.

**WageSlave1** · 5 July 2005, 09:58

The school was never informed though, so they couldn't take any action to protect female members of staff.

Of course not; that would infringe the boy's rights under the data protection act.

**ScotsPine** · 5 July 2005, 09:58

"Jeremy Dein, QC, defending"

i wonder who picked up the tab for his contribution to justice?

**hattra** · 5 July 2005, 10:41

Data Protection

Of course not; that would infringe the boy's rights under the data protection act

I thought that got kicked into touch after the Soham murders - aren't the Police allowed to share personal data where it might prevent a serious offence being committed?

It starts with section:
29. - (1) Personal data processed for any of the following purposes-

(a) the prevention or detection of crime,

are exempt from the first data protection principle

you have to plough through several Schedules of conditions, but it comes under "protecting the vital interests of another"

**WageSlave1** · 5 July 2005, 10:46

Re: Data Protection

I thought that got kicked into touch after the Soham murders - aren't the Police allowed to share personal data where it might prevent a serious offence being committed?

Hattra, unfortunately you are making a classic mistake; assuming the police are competent and able to do the job for which they are paid.
Having had a contract with the police, I can confirm that is sadly the stuff of dreams. During my time with them, they managed to post on a publicly accessible website, the credit card details (including names and addresses) of suspected child pornography users.

**Not So Wise** · 5 July 2005, 11:42

He will be eligible for parole after serving four-and-a-half years

Now that is sad, when i heard about this case thought at least 10 before he could get out but 4.5???

God you would probably end up inside longer for tax evasion

**hattra** · 5 July 2005, 11:46

WS1,

they managed to post on a publicly accessible website, the credit card details (including names and addresses) of suspected child pornography users

I thought you said they were inefficient - just the sort of thing they should be doing IMO - name and shame the b@stards!
On top of that, providing their credit card details should ensure that they get a few extra "unofficial" fines added to their "slap-on-the-wrist" punishment

NSW

God you would probably end up inside longer for tax evasion

Crime against the state, mate - of course you would

**WageSlave1** · 5 July 2005, 12:02

God you would probably end up inside longer for tax evasion

Worst crime in this country is to deny HRH her rightful dues, be it through tax evasion, fraud or treason. However, if you want to go on a 'happy chopper' ramage with an axe through the local supermarket, you'll probably be out in time for Christmas.

British justice was once the envy of the world, but now, like everything else, is just a pathetic joke. How did we fall so far so quickly? Even the Roman empire struggled on for a few centuries after it contracted a fatal malaise.

**Lucifer Box** · 5 July 2005, 12:07

To be fair, the apparent (to modern eyes) disparity between sentencing for financial crimes and crimes against the person is not new, and stems back to the mediaevel origins of the modern legal system. Back then life was cheap and property crime about as heinous as you can get. For sure, we no longer hang people for stealing a loaf of bread, but that bias still lingers on.

Leastaways, that's how a solicitor friend of mine explained it.

Oh dear: Boy raped teacher